I see what you're saying on the bow thing - it's not something that he should base his opinion on. I guess it's more for my benefit, that it seems like she thinks it's in the group's best interest to off him if given a plausible reason. To be honest, the "geek" thing sort of rankled me automatically - I have a deep-seated dislike of people who would single anyone out to treat like a "geek", and it's hard to see that as a good quality for a character. But I didn't take it as a sign of your own point of view. Just as explanation, his handling of Tori with the orc incident came from his own point of view that he was in a situation where all of the sailors were dead, one orc was alive, and he had no idea of where thy were or why they were fighting - he was fine with killing the orc, but couldn't understand why another minute to do so mattered. I think his own low opinion of Tori was solidified when she wasted a healing potion just to make a point - it seemed like a really dumb thing to do to him. Personally, I like your character, and I think you're doing a fine job running her - but I do agree with Damon that we both need to be careful playing this out. Just like Cullen and Kage fighting could lead John and I down the path of role confusion, I'd hate to see the same thing happen between you and me - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Deibler" <rdeibler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:33 PM Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: Hello? > If you would have "attacked" (as she would have percieved it) Cullen yes she would have attacked you, but you have to see it through her eyes she has known Cullen from the beginning of the adventure, she sees you as an outsider and the whole Orc display at the beach just rubbed her the wrong way. She would not just attack him randomly but she would defend her friends. (He would not have seen her aim her bow at him anyways so he would not judge her either way for that. She was behind him and up in the air, so no one would have really noticed her except if they were flying.) She really could care less about you and wants to be left alone. (does that make any sense???) > > > > She is defiantly not a bully in anyway. > > > > In fact she would rather just stay to herself actually some where in the woods, but unfortunately it did not happen this way, and the gods have her running through the underdark which she does not like, (use to be) lead my a human dominate male that has rubbed her the wrong way on several occasions (intentionally in her mind.). She would rather just ignore Kage like she did on the boat when he gave her that order. She is actually quiet the women when people get to know her and she is not fighting in hostile territory. Remember back when Purina was with us. We had stopped at a bar, she got all cleaned and dressed up and went dancing and drinking. (But stayed with the guys she knew not strangers, when the night rolled on she hung out in the corner watching people) So I really just see her as socially challenged when it comes to strangers and especially bossy strangers. If Kage would have taken his first angle of saying hello this would have probably turn out all different. > > > > Tori and Her quick perceptions of the characters: > > > > Whilce: > > She like Whilce, his care free nature and plain old no common sense makes her laugh. She often keeps and eye on him (likes he need it) in combat so his new experiences does not get him next deep in trouble. Tori does not totally trust him in combat and feels he is a bit wild to put in a strategic place unless there is a catch for his attention to stay there. She feels free to talk with Whilce, even trust him to a point in battle. While sitting in a camp fire she would openly hold discussions with him. > > > > Cullen: > > She trusts Cullen the most as far as leading the group wisely and not by the spur of his pants. She has her doubts at his young age and experience in combat but has noticed he has matured a lot since their last combat together. Again at the campfire she would talk openly with him and often exchanges advice with him when the opportunity presents itself. > > > > Neris: > > She understands the quietness of Neris and respects his skills, she knows he can hold the key to victory in many battle yet fought with his skill in the shadows and powerful and accurate shot. If Neris would she would hold ranger like conversations. She trusts him in a fight not to just dump the group and take cover. Even if he is not seen for a round or two she knows the missile fire will soon begin. Tori would have no problem following Neris as a leader. > > > > Ivan: > > She does not know him to judge him, so far he seems ok friendly and caring of the group, but she would like to keep her distance from him until such time that his true colors need be shown. In a campfire she would not converse with him and if talked to would only reply with polite short crisp closed ended answers > > > > Altoro: > > She was originally held captive with altoro by the orcs, in there escape and the battle that followed she learned to like the little fellow (even if heâ?Ts a dwarf). Often during the camp fire she would hold talks ranging from any topic he would want to talk about. They in the past would hold religious conversations. In a fight she has complete trust for altoroâ?Ts fighting prowess and decision making. She would have no problems following him as a leader. > > > > Kage > > As we talked about she is not openly hostile to him (except in terms of hostile talks), but if talked to her she would answer in sarcastic crisp tones just in the hopes of having him not talk to her again. She does not trust him combat or to follow any of his orders. Around the campfire she would not talk to him or hang out at the fire if the conversation pertained him and it would appear to have a chance to make them communicate. She does not openly start hostile conversation either but if he talks to her itâ?Ts bound to turn that way with his jabs at her. > > > > Tori: > > She does not trust her and does not communicate to her at all even when talked to. Kage at least has a degree of trust from the entire party so he can not be 100% bad (99.9%). But Liz where did she come from, the last act last night walked a fine line. Tori wants to keep an eye on her. It Liz a talks with her she just walks away or leaves the area. If she has to talk with her she refers to her as girl. There is no trust what so ever in regard to combat situations or watch. > > > > So she is talkative and friendly once a friendship is established. The geek comment was just a reference she does not think him a geek. I used the wrong analogy sorry the confusion. The point I was trying to get across is how you try to avoid people and not talk to them or openly avoid bumping into them. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx] > Sent: Tue 11/26/2002 11:49 AM > To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Cc: > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Hello? > > > > Guys, I hope my last email wasn't taken > the wrong way - it sure got quiet awful > fast! I'll hang around another five > minutes or so, in case anyone's still > at work. > > Basically, I want to know Tori's > motivation (at least how she comes > across to Kage). He'll handle things > differently if it's obvious that she's > really just a dominator and not a > naive, but forceful, person who means > well. Make > sense/ > > > > > > -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- > -- Type: application/ms-tnef > -- File: winmail.dat > > > >