[dungeoncrawl] Re: Bad News: I will not be able to play tonight
- From: Damon Kline <damon.kline@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: "'dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx'" <dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 16 Dec 2002 09:32:27 -0500
Yes, I am still planning on continuing on tonight. I'll have to change a
few things, just so I don't destroy the entire party. :) One thing though,
I will be leaving work a bit early today so that Matt and I can move a
freezer from his mom's house (up the street from us) to my house. It has to
be moved out today, but I don't expect it to take very long, since we are
only moving it half a block. But, that is just an FYI. I'm leaving at
3:30, so I should be home by 4 and we should have the thing moved in before
the 6 o'clock hour. But just in case, I thought I'd warn you.
-----Original Message-----
From: Johnathan Detrick [mailto:jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx]
Sent: Monday, December 16, 2002 8:46 AM
To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: Bad News: I will not be able to play tonight
That's too bad Bobby. You have a nice holiday as well. Damon, can I
assume we will play anyway?
Robert Deibler wrote:
> Hey I will not be able to play tonight, Crista has gotten called into
work. With it being Christmas they needed the coverage. Sorry about that. I
will be at home with the kids. I quess I wont see you folks until after
Christmas have fun and have a great Holiday if I don't talk with you until
then. Just a FYI I have the week of Christmas off so if any one has any free
time post-Christmas and want to play D&D or Computer games drop me a line.
>
>
> Bobby
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jim and Karen [mailto:jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Fri 12/13/2002 10:39 PM
> To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Cc:
> Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: No discussion today
>
>
>
> Maybe he though that he was "too sexy for that group"? By the
way, watch
> Goldeneye again some time and see what you think of the same
actor's
> performance as 006. He's got a nice range -
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Deibler" <rdeibler@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 3:41 PM
> Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: No discussion today
>
>
> > no mybe he's not just pretending, Beside whats 3 huge arrows,
multiple
> stab wounds, huge amount of lost blood, and fall over a 300 ft
waterfull
> into violent churning waters loaded bown with all the weapons of
your
> enemies.... Does'nt our characters take more damage then this
everymonday
> night and look we survive. he must be preparing for the sequels.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Johnathan Detrick [mailto:jdetrick@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Fri 12/13/2002 2:32 PM
> > To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Cc:
> > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: No discussion today
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yes, I noticed that also. He was willing to sacrifice
himself;
> > guilt, perhaps? I again say that he was a fascinating
character, and I
> > think it's a shame he had to die. His story could have been
incredibly
> > interesting.
> >
> > jimkaren@xxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> >
> > > I realized something else about Baromir
> > > the second time I saw the film in the
> > > theatre - he put himself in a supremely
> > > high-risk situation after betraying
> > > Frodo as a way of atoning for what he
> > > did.
> > >
> > > That was why he was blowing the horn -
> > > he wanted to attract all the Uruk-Hai
> > > to him so others could regroup. Cool
> > > character -
> > >
> > > >
> > > > I have to say something else
> > > about the extended version, since Keith
> > > > mentioned it. The extra time with
> > > Gimli was well worth it. His reaction
> > > to
> > > > Galadriel was somewhat glossed over
> > > originally, and by focusing on it more
> > > in
> > > > the extended version, he comes off as
> > > a much more developed character.
> > > > I don't know about Boromir. I'm
> > > not saying you couldn't do it, but he's
> > > not
> > > > quite a Jim character in my mind.
> > > Honestly (and this could be an
> > > interesting
> > > > discussion thread), I could see you
> > > playing Strider/Aragorn before Boromir.
> > > > Someone born to power who doesn't
> > > want it, someone stuck in a love affair
> > > that
> > > > is forbidden, someone forced into
> > > playing the leader and being the gruff
> > > strong
> > > > guy all the time. It's part of
> > > Ambrosia, part of Kage... The only
> > > problem is
> > > > that Strider doesn't have much of a
> > > sense of humor. But then, neither does
> > > > Kage.
> > > > I do agree that you could play
> > > Merry or Pippin. They just scream "Jim
> > > > character!!!!" :)
> > > >
> > > > Jim and Karen wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Now I really want to watch the rest
> > > of the extended version! If only time
> > > > > would allow -
> > > > >
> > > > > By the way, who agrees that if we
> > > were to play the Fellowship in D&D, I'd
> > > be
> > > > > playing Pippin and Boromir? :)
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Grogan, Keith"
> > > <Keith_Grogan@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 12, 2002
> > > 8:23 PM
> > > > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: No
> > > discussion today
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > We ended up closing early on
> > > Wednesday, not sure why it was mostly
> > > just
> > > > > > raining. I only worked for about
> > > 4 hours. I left work about 5:30. I
> > > headed
> > > > > > over to the salon to see Tim and
> > > ended up getting my birthday gift from
> > > > > > Julie. My one hour massage that
> > > she promised me in b-day card at my
> > > party.
> > > > > > It felt sooooooooooooooo
> > > goooooooooooooood. I felt like jello
> > > when she was
> > > > > > done. Got my neck, arms, hands,
> > > legs, feet, chest and back deep tissue
> > > > > > massaged. I highly recommend her
> > > to anyone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I also loved the extended version
> > > of Lord of the Rings. The entire section
> > > > > > they put back in when the
> > > fellowship was w/ the elves after
> > > getting out of
> > > > > > the mines made so much more
> > > sense. Well to me at least. I got lost
> > > at that
> > > > > > part in the original movie.
> > > Probably because of never reading the
> > > book. I
> > > > > > figured more happened there than
> > > what was shown. It wasn't unitl I saw
> > > the
> > > > > > extended version that I noticed
> > > that the whole fellowship had the
> > > matching
> > > > > > cloaks and noticed Lelagas' new
> > > bow since I now knew they had them. I
> > > also
> > > > > > loved Bilbo's narration of
> > > hobbits and the shire after the
> > > narrator's back
> > > > > > story. Like John I liked the
> > > insight more into Boromir's character.
> > > In the
> > > > > > original I felt he was there to
> > > be killed because someone had to die in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > film. I ended up liking him as
> > > much as the others in this version. It
> > > was
> > > > > > like watching a totally new
> > > movie, almost. It was very well done.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > ----------
> > > > > > > From: Johnathan Detrick
> > > > > > > Reply To:
> > > dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, December 12,
> > > 2002 7:31 AM
> > > > > > > To: dungeoncrawl@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: [dungeoncrawl] Re: No
> > > discussion today
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I decided to take yesterday
> > > off. I don't mind driving in snow (and
> > > > > I
> > > > > > > was
> > > > > > > here last Thursday when we got
> > > our first snowstorm), but I hate ice.
> > > > > Add
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > that the fact that Brad and I
> > > have been tremendously busy and just
> > > > > needed
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > day off, and the decision to
> > > stay home was a little more simple (and
> > > I'm
> > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > too busy this week).
> > > > > > > So we spent the day
> > > studying for his Real Estate Exam
> > > (which he
> > > > > takes
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > 23rd). It was great to have a
> > > whole day to study, and we got a lot
> > > > > > > accomplished. I still maintain
> > > that, by the time we finish, I could
> > > > > take
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > damn test and get my real
> > > estate license if I wanted to! :)
> > > > > > > We also did something else
> > > that I didn't think I would have time to
> > > > > > > do; we
> > > > > > > finally watched the Lord of the
> > > Rings! This is the first time I have
> > > > > seen
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > movie in almost a year, and I
> > > have to say; I couldn't stand the damn
> > > > > > > thing!
> > > > > > > No, I'm kidding....I have
> > > visions of Jim and Matt coming to my
> > > house to
> > > > > > > burn
> > > > > > > me as a heretic! No, I find
> > > the film endlessly fascinating, and
> > > > > increased
> > > > > > > running time was incredible. I
> > > usually say most films need an editor
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > should be shorter, but the
> > > extra time was great. Middle Earth
> > > feels
> > > > > like
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > place you could actually go,
> > > and the scenery is gorgeous.
> > > > > > > What really struck me about
> > > the movie though, and what made it
> > > > > better
> > > > > > > than
> > > > > > > it was the first time (and
> > > better than the book when I read it),
> > > was the
> > > > > > > characterization of Boromir.
> > > When I read the book, he came off as a
> > > > > total
> > > > > > > spaz and a jerk, and to me, it
> > > was always a foregone conclusion that he
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > cause trouble for the hobbits
> > > eventually. However, the movie makes
> > > him
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > real
> > > > > > > person. He's not a bad guy; he
> > > simply isn't as strong as some of the
> > > > > > > other
> > > > > > > characters, especially
> > > Aragorn. In fact, if Aragorn were not
> > > in the
> > > > > > > group, I
> > > > > > > feel Boromir quite easily could
> > > have been the hero of the tale. I felt
> > > > > > > his
> > > > > > > death even more strongly this
> > > time, not just because I found him to
> > > be a
> > > > > > > very
> > > > > > > real character, but because I
> > > feel the further story of his adventures
> > > > > (as
> > > > > > > he
> > > > > > > tried to come back from what he
> > > had done) would have been fascinating.
> > > > > > > But there is an even
> > > greater reason why the portrayal of
> > > Boromir
> > > > > made
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > movie truly great for me. When
> > > I first read the book (as a teenager), I
> > > > > > > remember one thought that drove
> > > through my mind; Frodo is an idiot! He
> > > > > > > goes
> > > > > > > off on his own, and how stupid
> > > is that?! He's a freaking hobbit, with
> > > > > > > nary a
> > > > > > > level in sight (does he ever
> > > contribute to any fight in the movie?
> > > > > Heck,
> > > > > > > Merry and Pippin are more
> > > useful than Frodo in a brawl!). So,
> > > what does
> > > > > > > wussy
> > > > > > > ass Frodo do? He abandons all
> > > of his powerful companions, and goes
> > > > > > > running
> > > > > > > off alone. That always drove
> > > me crazy, and I saw it only as a plot
> > > > > > > device.
> > > > > > > When I saw the movie last year,
> > > my feelings were confirmed. Frodo
> > > > > > > shouldn't
> > > > > > > have gone off alone, because he
> > > was King of the Wussies, and it was
> > > > > simply
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > move the plot along.
> > > > > > > But yesterday it finally
> > > gelled for me. Boromir was a good
> > > man. A
> > > > > > > trifle
> > > > > > > rash, perhaps, and sometimes a
> > > wee bit obnoxious, but he was good in
> > > his
> > > > > > > heart. He wanted to help his
> > > people, and he did not want to hurt his
> > > > > > > companions. Yet the power of
> > > the Ring seduced him. Finally, I saw
> > > it!
> > > > > > > He
> > > > > > > was seduced first, because he
> > > was the weakest. But the others would
> > > > > have
> > > > > > > been
> > > > > > > seduced eventually. So Frodo
> > > had to go alone. And it all made sense.
> > > > > > > Ok, LoTR talk is over for
> > > now. Everyone else have a good day?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Damon Kline wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Well, I was going to see if
> > > anyone else had made it to work and get
> > > a
> > > > > > > D&D
> > > > > > > > discussion started, but now
> > > that they gave us a two hour delay and
> > > we
> > > > > > > came
> > > > > > > > into work, they have decided
> > > to close the office. So, my attempt at
> > > a
> > > > > > > > discussion will have to
> > > wait. See you guys later and if you
> > > are at
> > > > > work
> > > > > > > > today, be careful driving
> > > home!
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Damon Kline
> > > > > > > > Legal Systems Technician
> > > > > > > > Supreme Court of Pennsylvania
> > > > > > > > 5035 Ritter Road
> > > > > > > > Suite 700
> > > > > > > > (717) 795-2028
> > > > > > > > damon.kline@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > > > > > >
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