Dave the theory is the carbon tax will restrict consumption and perhaps it is
working in modest ways;people buying more fuel efficient vehicles or electric
vehicles,more public transit etc.Ottawa claims the tax is redistributed so it
is not been used for research.But it’s real effect is to raise the cost of
virtually everything as it causes price increases for food ,heating ,any
trucked goods.It is one of the major drivers of our inflationary spiral,Bryan
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On Nov 4, 2022, at 3:13 PM, Dave Kerr <dave.kerr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
My question to-day is: Is the Carbon Tax being used to help solve climate
change, or is it a redistribution of wealth? How much of the Carbon Tax in
Canada is going towards Scientific options?
It would appear Canadians have no option but to pay the tax as we for the
most part require fuel for heating and travel. Especially those of us in
Rural Alberta. Therefore, we are not reducing our Carbon consumption, yet
paying out of our pocket...to whom? If it was 100% for research purposes, it
would be much easier to understand.
Cheers,
Dave
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 3:05 PM Wynn Payne <wynn.payne@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Bryan
Thanks for the detailed explanation. This makes sense to me.
As a second layer of the problem how much does Canada contribute to the
problem in relation to the whole world? My understand is that China and
India combined represent maybe 85% of the problem and that Canada is maybe
1%. Are those good estimates?
If we are at say 3 % how much change do we have to do a less significant
contributor for the problem? ie we are making our standard of living more
expensive while not being a significant contributor. Unless we can get China
and India on side our efforts have little effect while economically they
manufacturer without the costs of reducing carbon contribution.
This last summer there was an initiative to reduce fertilizer use in grain
production. That seemed to be counter productive to supplying the world
what it needs to survive.
To all, keep the comments coming while remaining courteous.
Thanks
Wynn
On Fri, Nov 4, 2022 at 2:52 PM R Bryan Waller <dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
wrote:
Over the millennia earth has been subject to variable climate change
indépendant of the actions of mankind.There have been at least 5 distinct
ice ages in the past 650,000 years.These changes are due to a number of
factors including the tilt of earth orbit,warming and cooling of the
oceans,volcanic activity and variability of energy output by the sun.It is
possible to chart these changes through the examination of ice cores from
the Greenland and Antarctic ice caps.In support of those who believe the
changes we are seeing are due to natural causes we are at a point in the
epoch where we are emerging from the most recent ice age and there is a
natural warming trend.
Having said that these natural trends are measured in tens of thousands of
years.Our current
accelerated warming trend has occurred in the last 250 years ,a mere thane
blink of an eye in time.It coïncides with the industrial revolution and the
burning of fossil fuels and explosive population growth.
Earths temperature has increased 5 degrees since the latest ice age more
than 10,000 years ago which averages out to .05 degrees every 100
years.Over the last 100 years the mean temperature of earth has increased
1.4 degrees.The world is heating up exponentially faster than ever
before.That is an undeniable fact.Of course the warming is not a constant
throughout the globe.Some areas may be cooler than in the previous years.It
is the planet as a whole that is warming at a far greater rate than ever
seen in the determinable record.
The reason is the increase in the so called greenhouse gases.The chief of
these is carbon dioxide but also include other gases such as methane and
nitrous oxide.They are called greenhouse gases because of particular
qualities.They transmit light but absorb and radiate infra red light.The
world would be uninhabitable if we did not have greenhouse gases because of
their role in warming the planet.
By the examination of air bubbles cast in ice cores scientists have
determined over the course of discernable history thé concentration of
carbon dioxide in the atmosphere has varied from 180 to 300 parts per
million .Modern levels are at more than 400 parts per million and
increasing rapidly.There is no question for the most part these emissions
come from the burning of fossil fuels.Scientist are able to differentiate
fossil fuel carbon dioxide from naturally occurring carbon dioxide.Other
greenhouse gases such as methane and nitrous oxide which have an even
greater warming effect are also increasing.Methane comes from rotting
garbage and belching cows and nitrous oxide from the use of nitrogen
fertilizers.
The evidence is overwhelming and is found in the rapidity of these events
far exceeding any natural discernable natural occurrences.There are charts
and scientific literature than explains it far better than I can but here
are the bare bones of the argument.As I have said this is an accepted
conclusion from the vast majority of climate scientists.There may be the
odd outlier but I have never seen one with any credibility.The earth has
been able to adapt to changes over the millennia but can it adapt to
dramatic change over centuries? We humans are ingenious creatures and
perhaps we will adapt ….or perhaps not.Bryan
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