i love this list... its like being in direct contact wi the oracle. Listen, if you all dont mind carrying on wi the pole discussion, is there a benefit to a fixed pole? i think it usually found on pleasure vehicles. i can see why it is not preferred for marathon, but is there a reason that so many fixed poles are on pleasure/urnout vehicles? Thanks, Nancy, in NH, working again on the large & larger circles... :) n _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````