In a message dated 5/24/2004 12:22:10 AM Pacific Standard Time, ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: The ponies are 44" long, chest to rump, the carriage pole was set at 68". Do you think we need a to make the pole longer? They are 11.1 hands tall. We had the carriage pole, which is a fixed pole set at 33 1/2". Is this too high for them? How far in front of the chests should the pole be? The carriage is my Jeff Day Marathon. I drive a pair of 43" mares to this carriage and the pole is set for them only the height of the pole is 31 1/2". Any helpful ideas on where to proceed next? Thanks Bettyann Seablade>> Go to the CAA website. They have a great chart with all the measurements that you would ever need for all size animals, for shafts and poles. Trish _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````