I found your website very informative, and your pictures helped me visualize everything you were talking about. ==>Thanks Sharon! It's a fun, ongoing project... You said that drivers don't use the collars for CDE's, but my friends do. ==>Not so much that people don't use them, but that neck collars are normally not recommended. The majority use breast collars. You mentioned that your horses don't seem to catch their reins on things with your set up. I have gatored for my friends and acted as a groom for them at various functions. That means I head the horses when necessary. They use liverpools on the horses, and when the boys are standing still, they like to nip at each other, and I often have to unhook the reins that one has caught on the other's bit. Does the yoke set up help with this? ==>Nope, only training does. I expect my girls to stand there and not nip or rub at each other and for the most part they do. They need a reminder once in a while about the head rubbing. Sweaty Fjords are itchy :-) My "groom/friend" heads them but she just stands in front and rarely ever holds them. They are expected to hold themselves. If they were prone to that sort of monkey business then I'd have to have bit bars on for sure, also my liverpool shanks are short. I'm confused about several things, but that's because I am ignorant about pairs. The britching you use, is that the yankee britching that everyone was talking about? ==>I have seen many names applied to this type of britchen and so I really don't know what to answer for sure. In the Workhorse Handbook by Lynn Miller, he calls the draft harness equivalent a "western Breeching". Do you find that the collar doesn't twist on the horses' necks as much with a yoke? ==>That is correct, the collars rarely have side torque because the pull is directly in front of the collar. I will be investing in a pair harness in the near future, and I want to get it right - it's too expensive to make a wrong decision! Then there's the carriage. Eeeeks! Pairs are expensive. ==>That is the total $$$$$ truth!! All the shopping and investigating is fun and scary at the same time. I hope everyone doesn't mind my basic questions, and any advice on how to keep reins from getting hooked, what harness configurations you would buy for CDE's, and what trainers in the mid-atlantic area you would use to train a driving horse, would be of great help. Thank you! ==>I love to talk driving - but I'm very much an amature driver and that should be taken into consideration. What works for me, might not be the best decision for anyone else! What kind of pair are you going to put together? Jeanine