I heartily agree with Hardy about being open minded, but further , I find that the problem with many of these lists is that people tend to take them as gospel rather than looking at the ultimate source of how the game is played - "the ADS Rules". I have found to my dismay in my own interactions with driving people how few of them actually possess, much less read the current rules. This idea that check reins aren't allowed by the ADS is not true. They are not allowed at the advance and intermediate level in combined driving, but they are allowed in training and preliminary. If you read the pleasure driving rules you will find that side checks are allowed in all classes and they are commonly used in coaching classes as well. Even standing martingales are a part of the correct turnout for a Stanhope gig. Granted, side checks are a training tool, and I am not advocating using them or not. I use them myself in training a young horse if it is appropriate, but my main message is please "READ THE RULES" ! They are there to guide you and available on the ADS website even if you aren't a member. I remember a good friend of mine, Jack Lyndon, recently deceased, who said he recognised a real driving person when he found a copy of the rule book in the bathroom as reading material. I heartily agree with him. Mike Maurer _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````