Thanks for the help folks, still have not located any clear pictures. Smuckers says they sell the Yankee Breeching/Britchin, no pictures. Lisa Singer search turned up some great marathon photos, always at an angle! You could see the gleam of breeching strap, just not where it went or attached. Great action photos though, even one as a past ADS logo on their website. Nothing showing a full side view in marathon harness. I did check the archives of CD-L, got the old discussion about Yankee Breeching between Barb Lee and Jonni, using it on a single. I think that is where the comments on picture with kicking strap and Quarter/Yankee breeching came from. Barb Lee calls it Quarter Breeching from Military information she has seen. Jonni appears to be the only person to ever use Yankee Breeching successfully on a single, and she said that was only good on one 4-wheel vehicle with special shafts. I did not see the picture myself, not sure what she did to modify her harness system. I did turn up some odd drawings of draft harness with trace carriers, odd crupper, hip strap arrangement they called Yankee Breeching, in a harness catalog. Not what we use, wouldn't want to send a new person there to further confuse them. I am not sure what the modified Yankee Breeching arrangement would look like. Seems the harness arrangement name changes with each maker. Our Yankee Breeching has sewn-on flat loops that the crupper straps slide thru to hold breeching in place, just above the crupper buckles. The long strap comes down from croup around hip, over ribs and attaches at a ring on false martingale on girth. Breeching is one long piece of leather strap 2-3 inches wide. Even fastened short/tight, it still allows easy movement of the hindquarters, no constriction. However there is little to no play when horse slows, stops and breeching comes into action. Lots of muscle available for reverse of direction in backing up, even on a hill. The whole harness, hitching configuration, is a working system, from neck attachment, thru body to yankee breeching. Horse is engaged with harness, working, going forward or in reverse. Single horse does not have the neck collar, breast collar to vehicle attachment point of pole or yoke, so this Yankee Breeching system won't work for singles. Kicking strap is useless here, no anchor points on a pair, with only a single pole. Single has shafts on both sides for kicking strap to anchor on. The hunt for pictures is still on. I am going to have to figure out how to post some pictures one of these days. I do have a new computer coming, maybe that will help. Kathy Robertson __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.shtml `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````