Kathy, I have a question. How do you attach your tandem bars to the pulling system? Did I read something about attaching to the center of the wheelers breast collar? Please explain. When using my tandem bars, they attach via short trace links to the same tandem keys I use for the long traces. The center strap is used for support only, and is never in draft. While corresponding with a friend on the Welsh Cob list, he mentioned that he uses a long trace system for his leaders, where the leader traces connect to an extra singletree on the carriage. I am not sure how the extra long traces are carried past the wheeler, but the wheelers harness is apparently not involved at all in draft, when the leader IS in draft. BTW, my leader is intentionally in draft on the marathon portions of CDE's, for just the same reason noted by Kathy. And I agree with her on the advantages of using tandem bars for the speed events. Jay E. Hubert Coffing Oaks Welsh Ponies Galt, CA Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. And I STILL drive too fast to worry about cholesterol! _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````