Kathy, Jay, Hardy, Sterling and others, Could you please describe your Tandem bars and how they would attach to a neck collar harness. How you keep them from hitting the wheeler in the knees or face and the leaders hocks?? Any pics of them and what are the dimensions of the bars for horses? What situations would you use them and when would you not use them? Is it more difficult to keep the leader out of draft with them ? How do you determine the length of the leaders traces? When making Tandem bars, what have you found works and does not work? Any injuries occuring because of the bars? Basically what are the pros and cons, since I have never seen them in use. Many thanks to all who can answer !! I would like to try them someday. Ansley ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 236 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Try www.SPAMfighter.com for free now!