Hello to the List- I fairly recently got both a single (has the optional deep V breast collar)and a pair harness,for two different sizes of minis(that can be changed over to use as two singles)beta harness from Pam at The Carriage House in FL; I am very pleased with both the single and the pair. Have not used the pair a lot yet, but am happy with the fit and apparent comfort for the horses, as well as the overall construction. I ordered stainless, for the best possible ease of care, too. Bob Ashworth? Were the full collars you got that came from Smuckers also of beta, or only the long tugs and traces? I am thinking I have never seen, in all of my looking on the internet, full collars of synthetic material--but...???? I, too, think I would like to add full collars someday, for sometime use on the pair, so am interested in the experience of others who have done the same, especially with Miniatures. Thanks! Regards to all, Margo Cox-Townsend Edgewood, NM-where the monsoon has *finally*begun-but not sure the brown grass will revive, this late in the summer...