Hi I would love to know about the rein clips. I will eventually have 2 pair of Driving Shetlands and that might be a good idea for me to learn how to drive a 4 in hand or a tandem. Also, I have been reading about a Four in Hand Whip and how you have to wrap it up and loop it. Anyone have any ideas on that? It seems so hard to learn besides learning how to drive with 4 reins. Also, what size whip do you use for your pairs? I drive a Small Pony Pair and want to order a Barbara Burr whip and I don't want it to long to catch on trees but I want to be able to reach the girls heads to shoo bugs etc. Any ideas? Thanks so much Bettyann _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````