We also try to start a pair with an experienced horse on one side. You can depend on experienced horse to follow directions and keep going while Jr. might bounce in place a little, especially if he is also green as a single. Something not mentioned. We fasten the evener down tight if vehicle has one. This lets horses walk off without the pulling back and forth at start. Evener is kept tied down until BOTH horses walk off calmly at the command to "Walk On". Not much uglier than a jiggy, see-saw start on a multiple. Very hard to overcome such bad beginnings, smoothing them out. We are the opposite of Dave in trace length. Our Jr. horse has longer traces. He doesn't get the load until the other horse has already started it. Often beginners will start slow, then hit the trace/load, then back off. If you make it easy, load is started, just singletree to pull off of, not evener. They don't get as anxious. As Jr. goes back and forth, other horse just keeps going forward, sometimes also pulling Jr. to move him along. Usually takes several strides for Jr. to find his place because he does not always start well. Beginner horses have to learn to be brave when taking a load. Takes a while. Easy to overface them with too much weight. We adjust the coupling reins to make the horses comfortable with uneven trace length. Achenbach reins will allow MUCH adjusment to compensate for height or length differences. We never lose contact with the experienced horse. However experienced horse is doing 80% of work. Jr has enough to do just learning his place and staying in it!! As I said, WHEN Jr. understands directions and follows them promptly, we can start adjusting things for him to take on more work. We have found it very easy to overload his small mind with too much change at once. It scares him. Making it easy for him to be successful, gives him confidence. Easier for him to keep willingly trying new things, when we ask them of him. He always wins and is praised. Our horses have to trust us when we ask for weird things in CDE hazards or going down the road. We take good care of them so they are willing to try peculiar requests from us without argument. Kathy Robertson > Thank you Dave. My number one guy is experienced. I > just am a bit concerned > if the younger one will learn to pull as effectively > going straight to a > pair. Don't want no slackers!!!!:~) > okay to start a green > > horse in a pair if you have an experienced one > already there. question of control, have shorter traces on the green one, so if it should get frisky, it can't get ahead of the other. If it gets ahead, you no longer have > > contact with the experienced horse, the one whose > help you need. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - Let the expert host your site http://webhosting.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````