Rereading Laurie's post of her accident, I just noticed her mentioning that the pole, breeching and breastcollars, seem to be poorly adjusted. She mentions that the pole still pulls the breastcollars before the breeching is applied. That is wrong. There is a pole length to horse size table, on the ADS website. It is for traditional, fixed pole carriages. You do need extra length for horses to control the vehicle, leverage factor. Too short or too long, will make a big difference on control for the animals, plus way of going. When we are pleasure driving, we want some slack in the harnessing. Too tight will rub and sore animals. On long drives, that happens quickly. You do want the traces to be a little loose when the breeching would come into play, during a pleasure drive. Horse does use his neckstrap to aid in stopping, but not as the only part to hold back with. Moving into the breastcollar to pull, breeching has some slack. Animal has a small space of harness no-contact, where he can change from forward to stopping, and neither will interfere with the other motion. The whole system is supposed to work together, not in parts. Trying to stop with breastcollar still pulling forward, breeching not into play yet, horse is getting dragged forward by the neckstrap with the weight of vehicle pushing. Harness is not doing what it should, to let horse control his load. Between reins, bit, harness pulling in two directions, vheicle weight, ponies MUST be VERY confused. Hardy's suggestion of pair lessons, with a pair instructor is exactly what you need. They can aid you in adjustments of harness fit, rein adjustments for equalizing the two animals. Their experienced eye will see things that you won't notice as a single driver. You NEED someone to aid you and look at you in person. We can only give you a general idea of correct fit, via long distance. Hope you and the ponies are both feeling better now. Kathy Robertson ===== __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/dpmem.html `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````