[drivingpairs] Re: CDE Competition Ages
- From: "DELL M. MANGUM" <target@xxxxxxx>
- To: drivingpairs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx, drivingpairs@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Sun, 08 Feb 2004 13:38:11 -0700
THANK YOU ! This is a subject I have thought about for many years.
What I want to know is how do they get away with using those two year old
race horses in the triple crown?
It sure looks to me it would be much more interesting races if these were 3
or 4 year olds.
But if they win I guess the BIG purse can offset alot of damage. OH if we
could just get folks to pay half that much money to watch us drive.
Good Morning! I'm new to this message board but so far I like what I've
found here.
The alfalfa hay in southeast Idaho is selling from $60 to $110 per ton.
Dell M. (MULE) Mangum
TARGET POLYPAYS
"pure bred sheep since 1978 and Shire Horses since last Saturday"
Blackfoot, Idaho
At 11:07 AM 2/8/2004, kathy robertson wrote:
>Just a note for CDE competitors, your horse is
>supposed to be somewhat mature. I think the age of
>any horse in a CDE is supposed to be at LEAST 4 years
>of age. I can't lay my hands on the rule book at this
>moment.
>
>There has been a lot of ADS discussion about the age
>of horses, but the rules folks feel that horses any
>younger are not up to the job. Their young bones and
>untrained minds are not ready for such hard work.
>This is why Training is supposed to be easy, just
>beginning to build a horse. I may be wrong, or the
>rule used to be age 5 years. I do know there is an
>age limit to prevent such hard use for babies. This
>is old school thinking that I totally agree with.
>
> Modern horse users follow a trend of starting horses
>very young, see a great many people of all breeds
>doing it. I am sorry, but there in NO BREED, FAMILY
>or STYLE of horse who is "early maturing". The
>animals fed well, may gain their height early, carry a
>good load of meat over bones, but they are not mature
>at three. This is both mentally and physically.
>Bones take longer to get solid in all studies. Back
>to old style thinking of a horse being MATURE at age
>of six or seven. Big horses, 16h and up will take
>longer, because bones are so much thicker.
> Dr. Deb Bennet has a good article on the
>RuralHeritage site, about how horses grow and what
>parts are the slowest. I found it quite interesting.
>
>Folks who are thinking of competing Junior might want
>to check their rule book, for the details. Breed
>shows often have babies out competing in the ring,
>driving, ridden. Pleasure Driving doesn't (I think)
>have age restrictions. CDE does have age
>restrictions.
>
>We have had much better success with our older 4-5 yr
>old being able to pay attention, progressing much
>faster in training. He is able to work a little
>longer with his harder bones. Still a baby for us,
>but things are just a lot easier working with them.
> Our 3yr olds have the attention of a gnat. 5
>minutes is a GREAT lesson. He just is not ready for
>the work. They are much more willing, not a trial, if
>we wait a year. I don't have any problems with easy,
>moderate usage, trail riding, walks down the road. It
>is just intensity, mileage, much ring work, bending,
>that are cumulative on young bones.
>
> Starting later also makes for a longer use horse.
>We see so many young horses, under 10 years, who have
>the legs of an old Amish street horse. Worked too
>much after being broke out at two or three. Just wore
>out legs and joints. They are not ready to die, but
>pretty unusable at 10. There are always exceptions,
>but if you average them out, the longer usage horse
>seems to come from them being started later or only
>lightly used all those years. We see some folks who
>get a new horse every 2-3 years, trashed the previous
>one. Multiple breeds, all disciplines.
>
>Think about what you are asking from baby, pulling
>heavy loads, speed, deep going, hard turns, daily
>mileage of conditioning for fitness, practice
>dressage. Going in a frame is very hard work, to
>bones not conditioned by only doing a level a year.
>It can add up to a great deal of work, stress on those
>young bones.
>
>Kathy Robertson
>
>
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