Jerry, out West they are called Bellflingers. Several folks have made this cross with varying results. One friend even took it a step farther, and bred her Bellflinger mare to a Hackney. She got a 14 hand drafty looking sorrel with a LOT of knee action. <VBG> She was not able to continue this experiment due to ill health. FWIW Jay E Hubert Coffing Oaks Welsh Ponies Galt, CA Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons, because you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup. And I STILL drive too fast to worry about cholesterol! _________________________________________________________ To Unsubscribe, change to Digest or Vacation mode go to: http://www.drivingpairs.com/index.php?pg=2 `````````````````````````````````````````````````````````