Hey I am impressed, Hardy you can brag all you want. I think driving a six properly with reins Achenbach style would be beyond me. I am also not sure that goes with my image of stagecoach "driver" with old beaten up cowboy hat and the matching vocal commands. Ye Haw I know I had my hands full with the Randem. Expect 5" of snow in Virginia tomorrow, so unless I get highly motivated to get a sleigh out, very doubtful I can get that excited, no riding or driving this weekend. Doug Middleburg, VA In a message dated 2/10/2006 12:52:10 PM Eastern Standard Time, Hzlax@xxxxxxx writes: In a message dated 2/9/2006 11:27:03 PM Pacific Standard Time, ecartis@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes: We do not drive 6 up and thus can handle al the reins in the left hand. Ah, but even with six, the Achenbach style works and certainly was done in those days. But I agree withDoug, we don't do that much anymore, but one occasions we do. See page 26 of the June 2003 Whip where I do a one handed circle Achenbach style with six. :-) Hardy (on the run today, but happy to talk more about Achenbach advantage and disadvantage next week)