I say go for transitional. Standards are something to aim for, but at the end of the day we all have jobs to do (so unless it is your job to make something with strict compliance, or you are legally bound to, let's go for a balance of what really works and what should work). Chris -----Original Message----- From: dokuwiki-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:dokuwiki-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Anika Henke Sent: 15 January, 2006 21:06 To: dokuwiki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [dokuwiki] stricter XHTML Hallo list! During the last two days I made two patches for stricter XHTML compliance of DokuWiki. I replaced or deleted some deprecated elements and attributes and more. (BTW, with those patches the amount of "xhtml 1.0 strict" validation errors of the wiki:syntax page are reduced from 117 to 7.) For template developers: Heed additions and alterations to ./lib/tpl/default/design.css! (div.no, fieldset, img.middle and div.footerinc) I don't know if we should go *all* of the next steps to full XHTML Strict compliance. All the steps I've done so far, do not hurt. But going further could ... So, I would like to know: What does the list think about Transitional vs. Strict? I would like to know your opinion in mainly the following subjects: - The <u> tag: If we should go for XHTML Strict (which no-one has yet decided!), abandoning underlinings would be the hardest to convince people about. Most people feel they need to be able to underline text ... So taking this feature completely away seems impossible. *If* we did Strict, I would recommend not just to replace <u> by something like <span class="u">, but by <em class="u"> and style it like <u>, as people usually underline text when they want to emphasize things!? - The target attribute of the <a> tag: http://accessify.com/features/tutorials/the-perfect-popup/ is a good read about that subject. So, external links could be handled by JavaScript ... Could we live without target="_blank"? Are other targets used? - The attribute "name" is not allowed in the form tag with Strict. How problematic is it with the existing JavaScript? (This is a more specific question to a few people, rather than a general one to the whole list.) I have got more questions, but these are the most important ones. To sum it up: Strict just for the sake of it? Or Strict because we believe in it? Or no Strict at all? Anika -- DokuWiki mailing list - more info at http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:mailinglist This email communication is confidential and is intended solely for whom it is addressed. Copying, or re-using in any way by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of GL TRADE or any of its affiliates. If you have received this mail in error, please destroy the copy in your possession and notify abuse@xxxxxxxxxxx This email communication is confidential and is intended solely for whom it is addressed. Copying, or re-using in any way by anyone else is unauthorised. Any views or opinions expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of GL TRADE or any of its affiliates. If you have received this mail in error, please destroy the copy in your possession and notify abuse@xxxxxxxxxxx -- DokuWiki mailing list - more info at http://wiki.splitbrain.org/wiki:mailinglist