[dokuwiki] Re: New Start
- From: "Chip Dunning" <chip.dunning@xxxxxxxxx>
- To: dokuwiki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
- Date: Thu, 28 Aug 2008 08:15:16 -0400
So, wikis work better flat and using interlinks to move around?
As an example the Religious Book for my world is just over 200 pages
long, it details fully my 6 core religions (15-20 pages each),
another 20 minor religions (1 page each), and the rest of the pages
are scattered among 9 large religions that are more localized (about
5-10 pages each).
So, using this setup I would create a 1-page overview for each of the
religions...
Temple of Light
Irrishites
Elven Court
...
Xian
then I would convert my 200-page master book into a single wiki page.
Each of the overview pages would link into a given section of the
master book.
I have only a few concerns.
1) This would create a large number of files under a single directory.
Given an overview for each of the religions, countries, races, and
monsters would tally over 5000 pages. I want to make sure this would
not be too much for the wiki.
2) Second, it would create some pages that are very large - like the
Religion and Magic books. Would these pages be too large? Is there an
upper limit that the search begins to slow down?
Chip
On Thu, Aug 28, 2008 at 2:31 AM, Andreas Gohr <andi@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> I'd suggest a flat hierarchy similar to what Wikipedia does. Give each
> religion, country, race and whatever else you have a single page in
> the top namespace. Then have overview pages linking to the other pages
> ( like a religion page listing all religions) and interlink all pages
> ( a country should link to its religion, neighboring countries, and so
> on)
>
> Andi
>
> On 8/28/08, Chip Dunning <chip.dunning@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> Thanks, actually that helped a great deal. It appears that you went
>> only 1 level deep. That must mean that you have a great deal of files
>> inside each one. Given that I am thinking about only taking mine 2
>> levels deep, instead of 3 or 4.
>>
>> Topic:Sub-topic.
>>
>> Thus one of my kingdoms would be
>>
>> Atlas:Dakarian_Kingdom
>>
>> under Dakarian_Kingdom there would exist a bunch of pages.
>>
>> Sub-areas would then be under the atlas namespace, no matter how many
>> kingdoms they entail. Continents contain far more than sub-areas of
>> the continent.
>>
>> Consider Europe vs. Iberian Peninsula both contain Spain but only
>> Europe contains Germany.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Chip
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:09 PM, Wes <stararmy@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> I don't know if this will help or not, but you're welcome to look at
>>> my RPG's dokuwiki setup for ideas: http://stararmy.com/wiki
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Aug 27, 2008 at 10:04 PM, Chip Dunning <chip.dunning@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Very new not just to dokuwiki, but to wiki's in general.
>>>>
>>>> I am trying to use dokuwiki from my various role-playing games
>>>> (background, history, rules, etc.) and I am having difficulty making
>>>> the mental transition from a combination of PDFs and HTML pages.
>>>>
>>>> The problem is that many of my PDFs span 25-30 pages covering a single
>>>> topic. Obviously a single wiki page that long would seem to be a
>>>> nightmare. Breaking it up seems proper, but then I am left trying to
>>>> figure out the best naming scheme (combination of namespaces and
>>>> pagename).
>>>>
>>>> Ex:
>>>>
>>>> Continent = broken up by sub-sections: Bronze Sea, Western Realms,
>>>> Eastern Jewels, Northern Snows, etc.
>>>> Kingdom = broken up by information: History, Resources, Religion,
>>>> Government, Military, Sub-Domains, etc.
>>>> Major Area = broken up by town or a single lord's holdings, etc.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Given 5 Continents, 4 sub-areas per continent, 8 nation-states per
>>>> sub-area, and about 10 major areas per nation-state. I am trying to
>>>> work out the best combination to take advantage of the wiki.
>>>>
>>>> 1) Atlas:Continent:Subarea:Nation:Area
>>>> 2) Atlas:Continent:Subarea:Nation
>>>> 3) Atlas:Continent:Nation
>>>> 4) Atlas:Nation
>>>>
>>>> Currently I am leaning towards #3, but I could use some advice if this
>>>> is not really the best way to approach namespace:pagenames.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Second, how to break up my large pages. As an example one of my major
>>>> kingdoms is written up in a PDF spanning almost 50 pages. There are
>>>> subtopics within this document, but I want to make sure that someone
>>>> can quickly find relevant information. If they search for Religion -
>>>> given that there are over 180 nations each with a religion document it
>>>> could return a huge number of results.
>>>>
>>>> I think once I get my mind wrapped around the wiki way of doing things
>>>> it will go well for what I want to get out of it, but I really want to
>>>> start the best way possible. For that I need to tap some expertise on
>>>> this list.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Chip
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