[dokuwiki] Re: New Headline Buttons - Draft

  • From: Matthias Grimm <matthiasgrimm@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: dokuwiki@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Sun, 6 Sep 2009 19:36:35 +0200

On Sun, 06 Sep 2009 14:00:55 +0100
Anika Henke <anika@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> > Usually we use well known pictures for icons. If you could tell me what
> > exactly headlines are about, I could choose a picture that fits better?
> 
> I know it's hard to make good, easy and simple looking icons ... and 
> it's easy to criticise. ;-)

You are welcome ;-)

> So, a big line above some smaller lines seems appropriate.
> But it still doesn't look distinct enough (the drafts 1-3). And I agree 
> with Andi that we shouldn't move too far away from something that the 
> current DokuWiki users have already learnt (the concept of the "H").

This doesn't matter anymore, since Andi accepted the patch with the new
"H" headline icons. The other set will be buried deeply in my archives. ;-)

> In addition to what Andi said (no dedicated headline buttons in Word, 
> etc) this might also be because the (old) H icon isn't accompanied by a 
> further explanation like the other "only letters" icons are: E.g. the 
> icon for underlined text is not just a "U", but an underlined "U", etc.
> The new icons have definitely improved that.

Nevertheless what word uses for headlines, the users had to learn that
and so they did with the "H"eadline buttons. I didn't and don't see this
as a big issue. But I aggree that icons will be better understood if they
"show" what will happen and don't "describe" it.

> I wonder why the corresponding icon headline colour is blue while the 
> other half one (which shows the relation to the headline in question) is 
> black? Blue seems to indicate a lesser significance than black, doesn't 
> it? The colours should probably be the other way around, especially when 
> you see them together with the other black letter icons on the left hand 
> side of them.
> And isn't the left line dispensable, now that we moved away from the 
> lines and arrows?

I like your method to slice things so thin that you can see any aspect. ;-)
I appreciate your interest and that really valorize my work. Thank you.

I choose Blue here to emphasize the new headline. The Blue here is something
special, because the usual surrounding color is black, and I don't see it as 
a sign of lesser significance. Color attracted the eye here and that was my
intention. You can seen the same effect with the signature icon.

Yes, the left line is some sort of a gimick and not really necessary, but it
makes the icons more interesting. Call it "my artistic note" if you like :-)

> Sorry, I'm definitely happy enough with how they are now. No need to 
> re-make them. Just wondering ...

I'm happy that you like them; what more meed do I need? :-)

 Best Regards
   Matthias




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