Thanks to all for the terrific feedback on the matter concerning the role of the composer and how much he/she should know when it comes to programming. I am forwarding all of the comments to my team. It will help. In the meantime I have some programing skill that I need to hone. Like Saul, I did some basic years ago, I mean like 1978 lol. Since then I have gotten a degree in classical music and have been recording and crap like that but no programming. I would like to have the control and I think the more I know prog wise the more control I will have in the end result of the music. Thanks again everyone. John Glynn