[directmusic] Re: backwards compatibility with xact...

  • From: Aaron Leiby <fireonyoursleeve@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: "directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:54:17 -0400

We used DirectMusic in Unreal2, and I tried running it in Vista 64 today, and 
ran into the issue with Script Tracks not working.  Unfortunately, setting the 
compatibility mode to XP(SP2) didn't seem to help.  Anyone have any more 
specifics on this issue?  I see Microsoft has a hotfix 
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/943253) for DirectMusic, but it appears to be 
timer related (and I just got a response from them saying they don't have a 
64-bit version of the hotfix anyway).  I also dug up the original DMP project 
for the Unreal2 Intro, and it exhibits the same problems there (even with 
compatibility mode set to XP) - the events in the Script Tracks are not getting 
sent.  They work fine if I manually trigger them in the script editor, so it 
seems to be more of a Script Track issue than vb script specific.
On licensing the UE3 sound engine: While I cannot speak for Epic, it seems like 
it would be rather difficult to extract since their tools are unified 
(everything depends on everything else).  It uses Kismit, which uses 
UnrealScript, which is used for serialization, etc.  So you quickly pull in the 
whole ball of wax.  That said, they've always seemed open to creative licensing 
agreements, I just don't know what you'd do with just the audio portion (if you 
could even define clearly what that is).
Aaron Leiby
Original Message:

From: "Jesper Kaae" <jesperkaae@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> 
To: directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
Date: Fri, 9 Nov 2007 18:12:40 +0100 (CET) I?m having problems running my 
DirectMusic productions on Windows Vista,
unless I run them in the Windows XP compatibility mode. Again this is
probably because of the vb scripts.

I have never understood and will never understand why the concept of
DirectMusic had to die such a tragically death.

Jesper Kaae

> I glad there are some DirectMusic guys still around, thanks again for
> responding.  I'll have to test out the DirectMusic games that I did
> that used vb scripting.  BTW, this feels very familiar, Beatnik
> anyone?  Alas, iXMF you're are only hope.
> Does anyone know if there is a similar email subscription list for
> XACT?  After exploring it over the last couple of days, I'm surprised
> they dropped all midi and dsl support in it.  Rhythm action games
> look like they might be a lot more difficult to do in XACT, but I'll
> be finding out in the next few weeks whether we use XACT, or some
> other audio middleware solution.
> On another note, Alexander Brandon spoke pretty highly about the
> Unreal sound engine in his Mix magazine article.
> http://mixonline.com/basics/education/audio_audio_middleware_part_2/
> Out of curiosity, has anyone licensed just the audio portion of the
> Unreal engine?  Do they offer such a thing?  I don't have any
> experience with it.
> Thanks!
> --Michael Sweet

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