Yeah, identical GUIDs are definitely a problem. Sorry man, I feel your pain. -Scott Morgan This message is "as is" and confers no rights whatsoever. (Umm, I don't have the official disclaimer since I'm just now back at MS, but it goes something like that :) ) -----Original Message----- From: directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Gatlin Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 11:48 AM To: directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [directmusic] Re: Problems copying dls instruments from one collection to another The files in question were originally soundfonts. I used Awave to convert them to DLS 2+ (as Awave calls it). I also tried saving them as DLS 2 (no plusses) with the same results. For grins, I took a couple of instruments I created originally in Producer and tried the same copy and unfortunately, I get the same scrambled wave assignment results. Sometimes it's just one wave, sometimes it's all of them. I've even tried copying into a new project with the same results. I've noticed that when I copy the instrument, it asks if I want to copy the waves used by this instrument. Naturally I answer yes since I need the waves in the new collection. I checked the GUIDs of the new waves compared to the originals and they are identical. I wonder if this is part of the problem, having two waves in seperate dls collections of the same project with the same GUIDs? Of course, that doesn't lead to any reasonable work around. So far the simplest thing is to compare each copied instrument with the old and reassign each wave. Blah. Jeff Gatlin Simutronics Corp. -----Original Message----- From: directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Scott Morgan (Volt) Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 12:11 PM To: directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [directmusic] Re: Problems copying dls instruments from one collection to another Ugh, I've run into that one before. If it doesn't mess up existing sequences you can alter the GUIDs and patch numbers of the instruments before copying them to the new DLS instrument. That way there's no conflicts. Somehow, I still remember having to go back and manually edit a bunch of stuff :( Here's a lamer answer: I do remember when playing with it, the order in which you copy the instruments makes a difference in how scrambled things get. Try a few different orders. Wait, brain coming to life....Are you making these instruments outside of Producer? I seem to remember my issue was with trying to combine instruments I had converted from other formats in Awave. I think that's why there wasn't a great solution, there was some kind of conflict between the two programs. -Scott Morgan This message is "as is" and confers no rights whatsoever. (Umm, I don't have the official disclaimer since I'm just now back at MS, but it goes something like that :) ) -----Original Message----- From: directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:directmusic-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Jeff Gatlin Sent: Monday, October 04, 2004 9:57 AM To: directmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [directmusic] Problems copying dls instruments from one collection to another I am trying to take a number of dls instruments which have been saved as individual dls files and combine them into a single dls collection. To do so I insert the dls files into a common project and create a new dls collection which will hold all the instruments. After I copy a dls instrument from the inserted collection then paste it into the new dls collection which has at least one other instrument in it, I find that the new copy of the instrument has several of its wave assignments scrambled, usually choosing the waves of one of the other instruments in the target collection. Is there a work around or patch for this problem aside from manually rebuilding each instrument from scratch? Jeff Gatlin Simutronics Corp. -- Binary/unsupported file stripped by Ecartis -- -- Type: application/ms-tnef -- File: winmail.dat