I will send the invitation to the other members too.
Olaf
On 02/02/2016 10:39, Ruud De Jong wrote:
With all respect, this sort of invitation should be sent to all paying
members of the Photoclub, not to the people who subscribed to Joachim’s
e-mail list....
But obviously I will be there!
Cheers,
Ruud
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[mailto:dh-photo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Nicola Moscelli
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 10:32 AM
*To:* dh-photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
*Subject:* [dh-photo] Re: Annual magazine subscriptions of the Club
Thank you for the replies I have got so far. At least I have the feeling
it’s not only me. Now I think it’s time to act.
We should gather on *next Tuesday the 9^th of February in the Amiroom at
17.00h*.
The aim is to show you the magazines we are talking about, so that you
have a direct feeling about the way they are edited and the content they
offer.
I will bring my own copies, you are invited to do the same if you feel
there are other magazines that are worthwhile for the club.
Starting from the day after, with André we will run a survey to let you
decide what to keep, what to get rid of, and what .
So, save the date and try to come in big number!
Nicola
PS: Joachim, you made me think of another magazine that I forgot to
mention, that makes outstanding presentations of the master
photographers of the past. It is published by Reporters Sans Frontiers,
this is the link to the last issue, which I will also bring:
http://boutique.rsf.org/collections/albums-photos/products/100-photos-de-robert-capa-pour-la-liberte-de-la-presse
They are not books of course, but they give a valuable introduction to
the ones that want to get a feeling of the works of those master
photographers.
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[mailto:dh-photo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *André Meyer-Vitali
*Sent:* Tuesday, February 02, 2016 8:40 AM
*To:* dh-photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dh-photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [dh-photo] Re: Annual magazine subscriptions of the Club
Hi all
The discussion about magazine subscriptions and buying books is rather
old, indeed. Thanks to Nicola, we make an effort, again, to get things
going. We will offer a survey asap. where you can indicate which
magazines you want to keep on, remove from or add to the list of
subscriptions. Ideas for books are welcome, too.
Of course, democracy is not always the best of all models, but it's a
good starting point. The club is here for its members. Nevertheless, we
should also educate and inspire, rather than confirm existing ideas and
knowledge, imho.
Keep your ideas coming, please! :-)
Cheers
André
On Mon, 1 Feb 2016 at 22:31 Michiel Sonius <mic.gra@xxxxxx
<mailto:mic.gra@xxxxxx>> wrote:
I agree, but the worst magazines have the largest interest, so
democracy may cause problems. I'm referring to practical
photography, which I only see because as ex treasurer I was still
involved in continuing the subscription. That they get away with the
same shallow advice time after time is amazing.
Michiel
On 1 Feb 2016, at 15:49, Nicola Moscelli wrote:
Hi Olaf,
I know this was previously discussed, and I have actually raised
this point to some of you already more than 1 year ago without results.
I hope that this email will put us in the condition to take a
decision on the topic very soon.
Nicola
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[mailto:dh-photo-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *Olaf Marzocchi
*Sent:* Monday, February 01, 2016 3:24 PM
*To:* dh-photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:dh-photo@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
*Subject:* [dh-photo] Re: Annual magazine subscriptions of the Club
Hi Nicola,
The topic was discussed already in past meetings of the club and if
I remember correctly we were waiting for suggestions.
I think the matter could be discussed at one of the next meetings of
the club.
I also think camera reviews are on printed paper almost useless and
besides magazines focused on the contents and on emerging artists
some good and high quality book would be better.
Olaf
Il 01 febbraio 2016 13:40:16 CET, Nicola Moscelli <nmoscelli@xxxxxxx
<mailto:nmoscelli@xxxxxxx>> ha scritto:
Dear all,
I’m writing to all of you because *I am not happy at all with the
magazine subscriptions of the club* and I want to understand how
many of you feel the same.
Note that everything I will be writing below can be synthetized by
the following question:
*Do you want to learn from photographers that are successful in what
they are doing, or are you comfortable in being camera geeks?*
For myself, I know very well the answer. I am provoking you on
purpose to know your reactions.
I have nothing against having the best reviews of the last cameras
on the market – though there are already several very good websites
for camera reviews on the internet –, but as a matter of fact *there
is a lot of redundancy in the subscriptions*. Not only, but *those
magazines are outdated after a couple of months* because brand new
gears are on the market. Some of them also try to give advice on
composition and techniques, but isn’t it something one can easily
find googling on internet?
Also: *do we really need similar magazines in English, French,
German and Dutch?* Why don’t we assess magazines just by their
quality and usefulness?
*I am not saying that we have to get rid of all the magazines we
have right now* because we are all different and have different
needs, but how can you become good photographers if you don’t
nourish yourselves with *inspiration* and* curiosity*? Without
inspiration and curiosity, how do you find the motivation to learn
and master a technique? The gear and the technique are a medium to
reach your ideas, but the sparkle of inspiration gives you the idea
itself and the motivation to realize it.
There are several magazines where editors make a very good job in
selecting emergent and talented photographers running interesting
projects all over the world, or showing and explaining the work of
master photographers that have made history. They make a big effort
in editing to show those works at best, on high quality paper, and
one also learns how to present a portfolio or to realize a serie.
And after a couple of months or even years, those magazines don’t
lose value because one always learns from what they show. Here, I
only see advantages.
I will now list some of these magazines so that you can start having
a look and develop your personal idea.
GUP Magazine http://www.gupmagazine.com/
ZOOM Magazine which is not the Dutch
one - http://www.zoom-net.com/zoom-magazine.aspx
British Journal of Photography http://www.bjp-online.com/
Polka Magazine http://www.polkamagazine.com/
Leica Fotografie International https://lfi-online.de/ceemes/en/magazine/
I hope to hear a lot of feedbacks on the topic.
Have a good start of the week,
Nicola
