Your statement was "Any changes we make to the marketplace is, I feel, going to
reduce the value the marketplace offers to the attendees."
This implies there are no issues. We have to make changes to address the
issues, they aren't just going to go way.
KEvin
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Subject: [DGM Committee] Re: Marketplace
I've never assumed there aren't issues. I agree that the edge cases need to be
addressed. I just don't see how any of the things we've come up with address
the edge cases. I think there will always be those kind of issues. I think we
are better served making it clear how we are addressing those special case
items than we are doing things that make the good intent cases less appealing.
On Jan 14, 2017 12:38 PM, "Kevin Ames"
<k_ames@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:k_ames@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
Carl, your points are valid for the good intent case. The problems we have are
not with the perfect case. The problems we have are the edge cases. In the
old days people brought their games for DGM they sold them themselves and then
took them with them when they left DGM so the situation was very hands off. We
have folks leaving their games there for a very long time, like years. We are
somewhat responsible for what happens to them, especially since we have no
signed agreement with them. If they are stolen or damaged we could be liable.
We have people abandoning their games and we have games at unreasonable prices
sitting there that will most likely never sell but they use up space.
You say it's little effort, that is just not true. The effort of maintaining
the marketplace is non-zero. We have to maintain the cleanliness of the area,
we have to maintain the connection between the game and the person. We have to
manage the money. We have money that has been sitting in the box for a long
time. Randy got an IOU for one of his games because it's not being managed.
Jim Carroll bought a game missing parts and has no redress. We either need to
return it to the original way it was where people only leave their games while
they are there, or we need to manage it better. Carl, if you want to step up
and manage the marketplace and all that comes with it, we'll let you run with
it. Someone needs to step up and take ownership of all the processes and solve
the issues we're having.
Having a small payment to keep people from just using us as free storage
doesn't seem that unreasonable. Add a $1 to your games price if you don't want
to pass it through.
We also have a cash flow problem. Keeping these doors open is expensive as
hell. I've put in $2500 of my own money so far in the last 30 days with little
to show for it. There isn't enough in the bank to fully reimburse me now and
our rent for February at the moment, so any ideas for helping with revenue are
needed. This may not be the best option for the marketplace and it's ok to
have a debate but to assume everything is working fine and there are no issues
is not ok.
KEvin
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Subject: [DGM Committee] Re: Additional items for discussion...This does not
include with maybe 1 or 2 items the first list
There's a lot to address there but I'm just going to talk about one of those,
the Marketplace.
We have, what I feel, is a very real problem with competing with Madness and
home groups for attendance. We have to have reasons for people to want to spend
the money they wouldn't otherwise have to, to come to DGM. I believe that the
marketplace is one of those reasons and a fairly strong one. It offers value to
the attendees with very little cost and effort to us. I see the value it adds
to someone's membership as a much stronger asset to us than whatever minimal
amount of money we could earn from it.
That all leads me to say that I think we need to be as hands off on the
marketplace as possible. In the past, when changes were made to the marketplace
it did nothing but anger people who were using it. I can tell you that, as a
user, taking my games off the shelf just because they were there for a few
months pissed me off. I've had many games sell after they were in the
marketplace for a long time. There are a myriad number of reasons why games
aren't just stagnating on the shelf. We get new people all the time in which
the marketplace is brand new to them. Sometimes people might see a game on the
shelf for a while then end up playing it or read about it somewhere else and
suddenly the game becomes interesting to them when it wasn't before. I can
personally attest that these things really do happen and frequently enough that
we shouldn't discount them. Unless we are running out of shelf space I don't
think we need to ever take games off of the shelves.
Any changes we make to the marketplace is, I feel, going to reduce the value
the marketplace offers to the attendees. I don't think we want to do that.
Plus, I believe that we could use the manpower that would be put into the
market somewhere else where we add value to the DGM rather than reduce it.
That's just my $0.02 as someone who sees the marketplace from both sides of the
coin.
Carl
On Sat, Jan 14, 2017 at 9:01 AM, Michelle English
<dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:dmarc-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I don't why the numbering system went haywire when i copy and pasted.
Additional items to add to Discussion and Action plan for DGM 01-14-17 Some of
these maybe be duplicated on First list.
REGISTRATION DESK
SUGGESTION BOX/BLACK BOX
1. We Need to Make the Black Box at Front Door a Suggestion Box.
ANNOUNCEMENTS
1. Make An Announcement before Next week stating “ Last chance to get yearly
Memberships at $160
1. Also For This DGM we need to make an announcement to update everyone on
Thursdays new procedure. I. E. Everyone must sign in, members and non members.
1. Fee will be taken by the registration person , not placed in the black
box.
1. Black Box is now going to become a suggestion box.
1. Let people Know of our New Security, I. E Camera’s.
BUILDING ASCETICS AND CONVENIENCE
1. We should put a bell on the front door, So registration person knows when
everyone comes in . Who will do this?
1. We need at Least two clocks if not More.. Ask for Donations of Clocks
1. We need to put up the clocks, which means we need to designate someone to
put them up and put them up in a timely Manner, Like Now.. Who will do this?
2. Put up black rack or other item to hang lanyards on . Who will do this?
3. Get Tool box for General repairs, fixes etc.
4. Aquire vacuums cleaner
5. Do we need more camera”s Halls where games are?
6. Water Damage in office ceiling? is this an ongoing leak, or what?
7. Need replacement lightbulbs
8. when will electrical work ,outlets be done and by whom.
9. We need a list of repair people we use or will use for repairs for
appliances, chairs, carpet, glass, ceiling, plumbing, heat and air all in one
place. possible a notebook or folder
MARKET PLACE
1. We Need the Market Place Payment system and Money Management systems
agreed on so we can decide to take the white payment box down or move it.
1. In Regards to the Market place we need to decide if we want Cutter being
able to deal with money or not.
1. We need to get someone delegated to make calls to people who have money
1. New form for people selling items stating rules, fee’s and time period
for sales and that after a certain period of time of them not picking up their
money that it will be donated to DGM. I Think this should be part of the
treasurers job.
1. As Well as Games that are not picked up will be put into the yearly
auction or donated to DGM.
1. We need to implant a new labeling system for games that will not fall off
game, stick to games or look tacky.
1. Make a sign stating Market Place games are not to be played or taken away
from the Market place area unless paid for.
1. Can we use mugs, ups as Giveaways?
YEARLY AUCTION
1. We need to agree on having a Yearly Auction of culled, doubled, donated
games. Games must be from individuals not companies, publishers. If an Auction
does not work we can try a raffle. $1. 00 Per Ticket.
1. The job of pulling these items and getting them ready for Auction will be
delegated to Cutter
1. Do you all think I am a pain in the ass, have purple hair and Bright Pink
eyes?
CHILDREN’S , FAMILY GAMES SECTION
1. We Need tags for the Children,s shelf by Age i.e. 3 and up, 4 and up, 5
and up etc or 3+, 5+ 7 + etc. What age is considered a Children,s game and
not a Family or adult game?
1. Get rid of the Puzzles, no time for Puzzles.
1. Put Family games in Adult section? or Keep with Children,s games and Call
it the Family Rack?
1. Should we have a children's small play area for toddlers for use on
Sunday Family Days?
1. If so we could have a donation drive , I can easily get all kinds of toys
from goodwill if we can take up a donation.
1. Should be put the children’s family rack in a different room? Easily
signed and noticed like in the second room in direct eyeliner from door?
SURVEY’S
1. Survey to members, what games should we Remove from the racks? What never
gets played? If you could remove 5 games what would they be? etc.
MEMBERSHIPS
27. Who is doing the memberships? We need a person to regular update membership
status of people paying for yearly memberships. David Culp may be doing this,
but we need to know, he is the one who makes the new badges. Someone needs to
talk with him asap to find out if he does this .
28. We need to get the websites updated to Knew prices before this DGM, with
links working etc
29. We need a New DGM Sign Made with maybe the price area kept empty and put
Velcro on it, she we can simple interchange numbers when prices change instead
of always getting new signs. Also if we have special events with special
pricing such as New Years, 4th of July Etc.
30. We Need New Yearly Membership forms with no year date on them.
31. What do you think about different Membership Plans? Family, Couple, Yearly,
Lifetime, Single, Automatic Monthly subscription plan?
32. Do we have a plan of action for things such as members who are homeless,
job loss etc, Do we make special consolations for them and if so what?
33. Do we offer discounts on Yearly Memberships once a year to business around
us?
KEYHOLDERS
34. Every 6 open / close shifts get you 1 month of free entrance to DGM. There
are 14 shifts give or take per month.
35. Nominations for New Key-holders?
FINANCES/ PETTY CASH/ PROFIT LOSS / BANKING
36. Who does deposits? We need at least two people if not three ( P, VP, Tr)
agreeing to be able to do deposits, and are on the bank account or have access
to items so they can deposit money when others can’t.
37. If we don’t have it, we need a ledger for tracking Deposits, up months down
months etc
38. We need purchase order forms for anything we purchase
39. We need petty cash forms made
40. We need a list of any stores that will give us discounts and who to talk to
if purchasing there and who can purchase.
BOARD MEMBERS
41. Board members need to take their responsibility to heart. We all must work
to make this place run. If you take on the job, get it done.
42. Assign who is doing what exactly and follow up . This does not mean you say
you will do something and then you may get around to it 3 months later. There
will be things that are an ongoing task that needs to be done on a regular
basis. There are priority tasks, etc. We all must pull our weight it we want
this to work.
43. Assign clear cut jobs to each of us with time expectations on those that
need them.
44. Have a page stating what each job is and what exactly that job entails and
what positions come under that job title and who is holding those positions.
For Example..
Events Chair- Manage and Coordinate Events, Delegate Volunteer staff, Suggest
New Events, Manage Market place, volunteer, prize acquisition. ….Michelle
English
^
Volunteer Coordinator - Julie Gunn
Market Place Coordinator - Cutter Roberts
Special Event Volunteers -
Prize Acquisition - Michelle English
etc.
Did you read all the way through this? if so I guess you noticed the odd ball
comment? If not I will know and you will be quizzed. lol
RENTALS
45. Who is in charge of renting out space?
46. Do we have forms?
47. Price Sheets
48. Biz cards to give people who walk in and ask
