[DECtalk], Re: Wonder why Dectalk sings?

  • From: "Jayson Smith" <ratguy@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <dectalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 17 Jul 2004 06:09:16 -0400

I'm surprised anybody could get Dectalk commands to work from within JFW,
since JFW does its own processing on the text before sending it to the
synthesizer.

----- Original Message -----
From: "DR. JAWS" <dh012e2025@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <dectalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 6:06 AM
Subject: [DECtalk], Re: Wonder why Dectalk sings?


> Ah! You've got my scenario just right, I am using JFW with ACCESS32 and
notepad and it won't go. But, strangely, at Sight village this year someone
had a DECtalk express and JFW in notepad, I put some DECtalk commands in and
they worked!
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Jayson Smith
> To: dectalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 10:50 AM
> Subject: [DECtalk], Re: Wonder why Dectalk sings?
>
>
> The Dectalk demos you can download can sing.  I suspect the problem he's
> having is that somehow he's not able to get to a low enough level of the
> software to send it commands directly.  If you just have JFW running with
> Access 32 and put a bunch of Dectalk notation in a notepad document then
> tell Jaws to read it, that won't make the Dectalk sing.  You have to
> actually be able to get direct access to the Dectalk itself in order to
send
> it the necessary commands.
> Jayson.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <dectalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 5:47 AM
> Subject: [DECtalk], Re: Wonder why Dectalk sings?
>
>
> > They can sing.
> > At least I think access 32 can.
> > At 09:04 p.m. 17/07/2004, you wrote:
> >
> > >Hmm. Yeah, when I said any synthesizer can sing, I didn't think of
> > >recorded voices, I was thinking of computer-generated voices.
> > >I wonder why hardware DECtalks can sing but software DECtalks cannot?
It
> > >really annoys me: I've just wasted £60 on a software DECtalk that
cannot
> > >even sing!
> > >E-mail me!
> > >dh012e2025@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >or visit my web site!
> > >http://www.horspool.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk
> > >
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> Works
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: Jayson Smith
> > >To: dectalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > >Sent: Saturday, July 17, 2004 2:36 AM
> > >Subject: [DECtalk], Re: Wonder why Dectalk sings?
> > >
> > >
> > >That's probably right, somebody probably just put the singing in there
as
> a
> > >fun toy to play with, figuring nobody would ever do much with it, and
> maybe
> > >it would even get removed when some new, more important feature needed
to
> be
> > >added (let's hope that never happens!).
> > >Now, on to the comments that any synth can sing.  Actually, if I
> understand
> > >everything correctly, the synthesizers that use actual bits of recorded
> > >human speech can't sing, or if they can it's very contrived.  I'm
talking
> > >about synths like AT&T Natural Voices.  I don't think you can change
the
> > >pitch on that one.  Also, it is true that any synth which has a fine
> enough
> > >pitch control can, by definition, sing.  However, the Dectalk singing
is
> > >actually designed to be used for singing, it has vibrato and all that.
> > >Whereas, the Blazie notetakers were never designed to sing, and look
what
> > >Jeff Rutkowski pulled off.  However, since it wasn't designed to sing,
it
> > >isn't as good as it would have been if singing had been in the design.
> You
> > >get delays between each syllable, while the synth processes the pitch
> change
> > >commands.
> > >Jayson.
> > >
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "shaun everiss" <shaun.e@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > >To: <dectalk@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > >Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 8:07 PM
> > >Subject: [DECtalk], Re: Wonder why Dectalk sings?
> > >
> > >
> > > > iNTERESTING JASON
> > > > i DON'T KNOW, BUT IT PROBABLY WAS A FANCY ADDON TOY.
> > > > aND i THOUGHT IT WAS.
> > > > tILL THAT IS YOU GET THE ARCHIVE
> > > > iTS LIKE STARTREK.
> > > > iTS JUST TV
> > > > bUT IT TOOK OFF.
> > > > sIMULAR TO TE DECTALK SINGING.
> > > > fIRST THE SYNTH SANG, THEN IT SANG TO MUSIC.
> > > > tHEN SMART GUYS START USING IT TO CREATE LOADS OF STUFF.
> > > > aND NOW ITS BIG!
> > > > dECTALK MAY HAVE STARTED AS SPEECH, BUT IT IS AN INSTRUMENT NOW.
> > > > At 10:26 p.m. 16/07/2004, you wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >I've always wondered something which maybe nobody knows.  Probably
> > >somebody
> > > > >does, but they probably aren't on this list.  Why is Dectalk able
to
> sing
> > >in
> > > > >the first place?  I wonder who put that ability there, what purpose
> it
> > >was
> > > > >intended to serve or if it just seemed like a fun thing to do at
the
> time
> > >or
> > > > >whatever.  Maybe when they were designing the Dectalk system they
had
> > >some
> > > > >extra space left on the rom chip and didn't want it to go to waste.
> Who
> > > > >knows.
> > > > >Just a thought.
> > > > >Jayson.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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