Jean,I do have skype, but it's on my studio computer, and I'm not there right now. My skype name is obinno1. Do you have aol instant messenger?
Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:59 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Omar! Working with the 02r 96 is a breeze!!! No more difficult than using an analog mixer.So you're connecting your motif to your mixer and your mixer is connected to your Edirol if I understand?
Then you're using two sets of analog preamps.Did you try connecting your motif directly to your FA 66 and if so, did you find any difference?
The MOTU 2408 interface is completely accessible with Jaws.Do you have a Skype account, if so give me your skype name and I'll give you a ring.
Jean Visitez mon site / Visit my site at http://www.studiomontebello.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:39 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
Hi Jean, lol First, hats off to you for using the yamaha o2r? I know it's an all-digital mixer, and I personally would never have the patience to work with that type of a unit. Second, I have the keyboard running into the mixer, and not the soundcard. Finally, is the Motu 2408's interface accessible with jaws? Thanks for your help. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:26 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Hey Omar! Sorry, I'm not too familiar with this audio interface! I just had a quick look at it on the web and it sounds OK for the price... I'm using the MOTU 2408 system and I can't find any difference between the recorded sound of my Motif and the keyboard sound.My mixer is a Yamaha 02r using the fiber optic wires to connect to my MOTUinterface. And the preamps on the 02r are very good. The MOTU interface is, on the other hand, quite a bit more expensive than the Edirol FA66 !Are you connecting your Motif directly to the FA 66 or is it going thru yourmixer? Jean Visitez mon site / Visit my site at http://www.studiomontebello.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:48 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recordingHi Jean, I'm using an Edirol FA66 Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:45 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Omar! I think you said that you're using an Allen and Heath mixer? Don't know which model you have but I once had a GS3 model and it sounded very good. What kind of sound card do you have to link the mixer to your computer? Jean Visitez mon site / Visit my site at http://www.studiomontebello.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:30 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recordingWell here's the thing with that...When playing it through my monitors, the Motif sounds great, but once i record that midi track into audio, that's when it seems to lose some of it's fatness, and even volume becomes an issue. For example, i know the limit is -0.1, and if i compare a soft synth's audio track sound at -0.1 to that of the motif, the softsynth is louder. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message ----- From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:04 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recordingAgreed. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:03 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recordingHi, Before spending any more cash, how about plugging the synth into a hi fi amp and checking what kind of tone you get? If it's very different, then start analysing your recording environment to see where the fault could be. If it sounds the same, then that's the sound the synth actually makes and you'llneed to learn to tweak the preset to your tastes or, in extremis, tradethe synth in for something you like more. BTW, if you try the hi fi experiment, be careful about turning up the volumetoo high, especially if you play bass notes - your hi fi speakers mightnot take it. Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: 03 July 2008 18:49 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Right. I don't feel the sound is as fat as it should be. Can you tell me which motu model is accessible to us? Thanks. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:38 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Yes. Are you experiencing some audio issues then or, is it that youdon't think the sound your getting back in Sonar is as fat as it shouldbe? Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:01 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Phil, Is the Motu a higher end soundcard than the fa66? Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:37 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Omar wrote: Do you think the problem is the Edirol FA66 then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using. Phil replied: I wouldn't say that it's a problem. Having said that, I would have thought that it's possible that replacing your current sound card with something else such as a MOTU may help although, I kind of question that a bit, as your only using the line ins on that card. I am assuming that your recording at 44.1, 24 bit? Sean, Tim, anyone. Any thoughts? Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno<mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:30 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Do you think the problem is the Edirol FA66 then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message ----- From: Phil Muir<mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:26 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording I wouldn't have thought so. Theyare nice mixers and the sound that you track with, should have a bit ofwarmth to it, as your using an analog mixer. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/ ----- Original Message ----- From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:11 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording I have an alan and heath mix wizard 3, which has gotten pretty high reviews. I'm just wondering though if you actually lose a bit of quality when converting midi of an external synth to audio, as opposed to when just bouncing or freezing a vst synth? Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com ----- OriginalMessage ----- From: Phil Muir<mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:04 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Yes. Mind you, I don't know which mixer you have so, can't comment on whether it has excellent pree-amps or, not. Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/ -----Original Message ----- From: OmarBinno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:02 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Phil, when you say pre amps, do you mean external ones besides the actual ones within the mixer that I am using? Thanks. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com----- Original Message -----From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:54 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording Hmm, maybe as your keeping all of your software synthes/samples internal toSonar. On the other hand, if you had some really hi end pree-amps thatyou could use with your hardware then, you would find that your hardware would sound fatter and have more detail too! Regards, Phil Muir P J Muir Productions, Music And Audio Production Telephone: US (615) 713-2021 UK+44-1747-821-794 Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246 E-mail: info@xxxxxxxxxxxx URL: www.philmuir.com/----- Original Message -----From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:49 PM Subject: [ddots-l] software vs hardware recording Hello, I notice when I use vsts, or samples via the sfz in sonar, I actually get fatter, warmer, and louder recordings than when using tracks from an external synth like the motif. Is this generally the case, or am I imagining things here. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! 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