[ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
- From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2008 19:59:53 -0400
Omar!
Working with the 02r 96 is a breeze!!!
No more difficult than using an analog mixer.
So you're connecting your motif to your mixer and your mixer is connected to
your Edirol if I understand?
Then you're using two sets of analog preamps.
Did you try connecting your motif directly to your FA 66 and if so, did you
find any difference?
The MOTU 2408 interface is completely accessible with Jaws.
Do you have a Skype account, if so give me your skype name and I'll give you a
ring.
Jean
Visitez mon site / Visit my site at http://www.studiomontebello.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:39 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
> Hi Jean,
>
> lol First, hats off to you for using the yamaha o2r? I know it's an
> all-digital mixer, and I personally would never have the patience to work
> with that type of a unit. Second, I have the keyboard running into the
> mixer, and not the soundcard. Finally, is the Motu 2408's interface
> accessible with jaws?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Omar Binno
>
> www.omarbinno.com
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 7:26 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>
>
> Hey Omar!
> Sorry, I'm not too familiar with this audio interface!
> I just had a quick look at it on the web and it sounds OK for the price...
> I'm using the MOTU 2408 system and I can't find any difference between the
> recorded sound of my Motif and the keyboard sound.
> My mixer is a Yamaha 02r using the fiber optic wires to connect to my MOTU
> interface.
> And the preamps on the 02r are very good.
> The MOTU interface is, on the other hand, quite a bit more expensive than
> the Edirol FA66 !
> Are you connecting your Motif directly to the FA 66 or is it going thru your
> mixer?
> Jean
>
> Visitez mon site / Visit my site at http://www.studiomontebello.com
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:48 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>
>
>> Hi Jean,
>>
>> I'm using an Edirol FA66
>>
>> Omar Binno
>>
>> www.omarbinno.com
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Studio Montebello" <studiomontebello@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:45 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>
>>
>> Omar!
>> I think you said that you're using an Allen and Heath mixer?
>> Don't know which model you have but I once had a GS3 model and it sounded
>> very good.
>> What kind of sound card do you have to link the mixer to your computer?
>> Jean
>>
>> Visitez mon site / Visit my site at http://www.studiomontebello.com
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Omar Binno" <omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:30 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>
>>
>>> Well here's the thing with that...When playing it through my monitors,
>>> the
>>> Motif sounds great, but once i record that midi track into audio, that's
>>> when it seems to lose some of it's fatness, and even volume becomes an
>>> issue. For example, i know the limit is -0.1, and if i compare a soft
>>> synth's audio track sound at -0.1 to that of the motif, the softsynth is
>>> louder.
>>>
>>> Omar Binno
>>>
>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Phil Muir" <ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:04 PM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>
>>>
>>>> Agreed.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>
>>>> P J Muir Productions,
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>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:03 PM
>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Before spending any more cash, how about plugging the synth into a hi
>>>>> fi
>>>>> amp
>>>>> and checking what kind of tone you get? If it's very different, then
>>>>> start
>>>>> analysing your recording environment to see where the fault could be.
>>>>> If
>>>>> it
>>>>> sounds the same, then that's the sound the synth actually makes and
>>>>> you'll
>>>>> need to learn to tweak the preset to your tastes or, in extremis, trade
>>>>> the
>>>>> synth in for something you like more.
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, if you try the hi fi experiment, be careful about turning up the
>>>>> volume
>>>>> too high, especially if you play bass notes - your hi fi speakers might
>>>>> not
>>>>> take it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Best wishes.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tim Burgess
>>>>> Raised Bar Ltd
>>>>> Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
>>>>>
>>>>> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology
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>>>>>
>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
>>>>> On
>>>>> Behalf Of Omar Binno
>>>>> Sent: 03 July 2008 18:49
>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>
>>>>> Right. I don't feel the sound is as fat as it should be. Can you tell
>>>>> me
>>>>> which motu model is accessible to us?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>
>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:38 PM
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Are you experiencing some audio issues then or, is it that you
>>>>> don't think the sound your getting back in Sonar is as fat as it should
>>>>> be?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 6:01 PM
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil, Is the Motu a higher end soundcard than the fa66?
>>>>>
>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>
>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:37 PM
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware
>>>>> recording
>>>>>
>>>>> Omar wrote: Do you think the problem is the Edirol
>>>>> FA66 then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using.
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil replied: I wouldn't say that it's a problem.
>>>>> Having said that, I would have thought that it's possible that
>>>>> replacing
>>>>> your current sound card with something else such as a MOTU may help
>>>>> although, I kind of question that a bit, as your only using the line
>>>>> ins
>>>>> on
>>>>> that card. I am assuming that your recording at 44.1, 24 bit? Sean,
>>>>> Tim,
>>>>> anyone. Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Omar Binno
>>>>> <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 4:30 PM
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware
>>>>> recording
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you think the problem is the Edirol FA66
>>>>> then? That's the soundcard I'm currently using.
>>>>>
>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>
>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Phil Muir
>>>>> <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:26
>>>>> AM
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs
>>>>> hardware recording
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't have thought so. They
>>>>> are nice mixers and the sound that you track with, should have a bit of
>>>>> warmth to it, as your using an analog mixer.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J Muir Productions,
>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Omar Binno
>>>>> <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03,
>>>>> 2008 2:11 PM
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re:
>>>>> software vs hardware recording
>>>>>
>>>>> I have an alan and heath mix
>>>>> wizard 3, which has gotten pretty high reviews. I'm just wondering
>>>>> though
>>>>> if
>>>>> you actually lose a bit of quality when converting midi of an external
>>>>> synth
>>>>> to audio, as opposed to when just bouncing or freezing a vst synth?
>>>>>
>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>
>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original
>>>>> Message -----
>>>>> From: Phil Muir
>>>>> <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July
>>>>> 03, 2008 9:04 AM
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l]
>>>>> Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>
>>>>> Yes. Mind you, I
>>>>> don't know which mixer you have so, can't comment on whether it has
>>>>> excellent pree-amps or, not.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J Muir
>>>>> Productions,
>>>>> Music And Audio
>>>>> Production
>>>>> Telephone: US (615)
>>>>> 713-2021
>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>> Mobile: UK
>>>>> +44-7968-136-246
>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> URL:
>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>
>>>>> -----
>>>>> Original Message -----
>>>>> From: Omar
>>>>> Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> Sent:
>>>>> Thursday, July 03, 2008 2:02 PM
>>>>> Subject:
>>>>> [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>
>>>>> Phil, when
>>>>> you say pre amps, do you mean external ones besides the actual ones
>>>>> within
>>>>> the mixer that I am using?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>
>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Phil Muir <mailto:ddots@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>> To:
>>>>> ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 8:54 AM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording
>>>>>
>>>>> Hmm,
>>>>> maybe as your keeping all of your software synthes/samples internal to
>>>>> Sonar. On the other hand, if you had some really hi end pree-amps that
>>>>> you
>>>>> could use with your hardware then, you would find that your hardware
>>>>> would
>>>>> sound fatter and have more detail too!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>>
>>>>> P J
>>>>> Muir Productions,
>>>>>
>>>>> Music And Audio Production
>>>>>
>>>>> Telephone: US (615) 713-2021
>>>>>
>>>>> UK+44-1747-821-794
>>>>>
>>>>> Mobile: UK +44-7968-136-246
>>>>>
>>>>> E-mail:
>>>>>
>>>>> info@xxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>> URL:
>>>>>
>>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>
>>>>> From: Omar Binno <mailto:omarbinno@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>
>>>>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 1:49 PM
>>>>>
>>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] software vs hardware recording
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I notice when I use vsts, or samples via the sfz in sonar, I actually
>>>>> get
>>>>> fatter, warmer, and louder recordings than when using tracks from an
>>>>> external synth like the motif. Is this generally the case, or am I
>>>>> imagining
>>>>> things here.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Omar Binno
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> www.omarbinno.com
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
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