I agree. I actually like the sound quality of alot of older synths alot more than the new ones. Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Tim Burgess To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 12:36 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording It seems to be, but I think this is more of a cost issue than a quality one. You could probably argue that there'll be no hardware synths in 10 years time (let's face it - modern synths are only computers with a custom user interface anyway). A good chunk of me is quite saddened by this, as I think some of the excitement has gone out of the offerings from the major manufacturers - half of the character of the vintage instruments was their quirky design and less than perfect components. Having said this, the unreliability of the older kit used to drive me to drink (that's my excuse, anyway). Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Omar Binno Sent: 03 July 2008 16:27 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording I've heard that producers are turning more and more to samples and vst's right from within the daw, rather than external hardware synths. Is that true? Omar Binno www.omarbinno.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 11:25 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording > Omar, > > If you've got good quality equipment and cables I think any hardware > losses > should be so minute they'll be undetectable. Remember that every great > album you've ever heard used this stuff and there's some amazing quality > out > there. > > Best wishes. > > Tim Burgess > Raised Bar Ltd > Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 > > Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at > > http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm > > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On > Behalf Of Omar Binno > Sent: 03 July 2008 15:16 > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording > > Thanks Tim. Is it also possible with what I said earlier, about external > synths losing a bit of quality when recording from midi to audio, whereas > softsynths won't lose any? > > Omar Binno > > www.omarbinno.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2008 9:34 AM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: software vs hardware recording > > >> Hi, >> >> One reason that this might be what you're experiencing is that the >> presets >> on a lot of hardware synths are tailored for oriental tastes. I know >> this >> for a fact on Yamaha equipment, where the emphasis is placed on thinner >> and/or more metallic tones compared to the warmer, fatter sounds that >> Western culture goes for. The soft synths provided by Cakewalk have been >> developed with the Western market in mind, so the emphasis shifts. These >> kinds of cultural differences were really apparent in the 70s and 80s, >> when >> it was part of the fun to be able to identify the synth manufacturer from >> the sound being produced. The good thing about the modern stuff is that >> the >> synthesis engines are powerful and detailed enough to give a fair >> approximation of what you're after, regardless of preferences your >> culture >> gifts to you. I never trust Yamaha presets as being indicative of what >> one >> of their instruments can do, because I know one of their sound designers >> and >> he put me wise to these kind of design decisions and policies that >> affect >> their products. Play with the filter and EQ parameters on your Motif and >> you might be surprised as to how it warms up. >> >> Best wishes. >> >> Tim Burgess >> Raised Bar Ltd >> Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 >> >> Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at >> >> http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] >> On >> Behalf Of Omar Binno >> Sent: 03 July 2008 13:50 >> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> Subject: [ddots-l] software vs hardware recording >> >> Hello, >> >> I notice when I use vsts, or samples via the sfz in sonar, I actually get >> fatter, warmer, and louder recordings than when using tracks from an >> external synth like the motif. Is this generally the case, or am I >> imagining >> things here. >> >> Omar Binno >> >> www.omarbinno.com >> >> >> >> >> PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! >> To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: >> ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe >> If this link doesn't work then send a message to: >> ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> and in the Subject line type >> unsubscribe >> For other list commands such as vacation mode, >> click on the immediately following link: >> ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or >> send a message, to >> ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >> and in the Subject line type >> faq >> > > PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! > To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > and in the Subject line type > unsubscribe > For other list commands such as vacation mode, > click on the immediately following link: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or > send a message, to > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > and in the Subject line type > faq > > > PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! > To leave the list, click on the immediately following link: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe > If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > and in the Subject line type > unsubscribe > For other list commands such as vacation mode, > click on the immediately following link: > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq or > send a message, to > ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > and in the Subject line type > faq > PLEASE READ THIS FOOTER AT LEAST ONCE! 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