That's all right. Thanks allot for your help anyway. I don't give up easy, so I'll keep trying until something happens. Thanks again. I'll let you know when it works. ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Kent To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 10:57 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: quirks in sonar 5 It works fine for me. Sorry I have no magic wand to wave for you. If you have the track selected to midi channel 1 and have selected a bank, the patches in groove synth should change. I often use it for the tr909 and tr707 drum kits. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: neville To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 11:20 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: quirks in sonar 5 yes ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Kent To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:59 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: quirks in sonar 5 Did you select a bank? GOrd ----- Original Message ----- From: neville To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:47 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: quirks in sonar 5 I assigned the midi track to channel 1. I did this when I first began to check out the Roland groove sinth. So then, is the key to getting in to the patches using my jaws kercer? Is there another way? ----- Original Message ----- From: Gordon Kent To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 8:41 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: quirks in sonar 5 There are no presets for the groove synth. If you want to change the patch, make sure the midi track is assigned to a midi channel. It is set to none by default so the patch changes won't work. Gord ----- Original Message ----- From: neville To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 4:10 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: quirks in sonar 5 When I press alt down arrow on the pre sets tab for the Roland groove sinth, nothing happens. When I play my key bord only one patch plays. the patches don't change in the patch colom of the track pain either. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 2:46 PM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: quirks in sonar 5 The Roland Groove Synthe is accessible or at least the presets are. Bob.