Hi, Greg, If the tenors in your choir are happy with how it looks then all is well. In general, David Pinto does recommend that you have a sighted helper review your score before printing and move score items around if necessary so one element does not obscure another. Sibelius Speaking allows us to have excellent control over the content of a score but sometimes we will need a sighted assistant to "beautify" the format. See: Lesson 53. Overlapping Items 1. How To Recognize And Move Overlapping Items. Lesson 54. Overlapping Items 2. How To Move Overlapping Items With The Default Position Dialog. Lesson 55. Overlapping Items 3. When to move Expressions in Transposing Instruments Staves. in the Sibelius Speaking Tutorial document. Bill _____ From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Greg Brayton Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 6:25 AM To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Working it out Well once I just printed out the choir music, took out the piano and flute, it doesn't take so much, only about four pages. I think this might work for our purposes. Now I guess it automatically places the tenor voice on the treble cleff? But when I changed it to, tenor clef, and even tried bass clef, Sally said the notes obscured some of the lyrics, and went off the staff. Huh. So for now I have it back in the treble cleff, and the pitches are correct anyway. Anybody have any thoughts on this tenor problem?