This is getting rather OT, but I really don't think their noise reduction is a patch on SoundForge's. It's rather like the difference between a sledgehammer and a fine-grade sandpaper. Okay, I'll not pursue this topic on this list any further. Kylee ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob" <bob2935@xxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2006 4:32 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What makes sonar 5 more accessible for us what has changed? > I used a demo of Audition without scripts for a while and there were several > things I could do, mostly audio processing of the entire wave. It had the > best plugins for declicking vinyl. > Bob. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kylee Maloney" <kylee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 7:44 PM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What makes sonar 5 more accessible for us what has > changed? > > > > Hi, Dan > > > > I wasn't aware there were developed scripts for Adobe, but some that > > someone > > had designed themselves and that these hadn't developed beyond the first > > version of Adobe. That was why I went for Sonar, and because of Dancing > > Dots' track record and reputation. If I've been misled, please correct me > > re Adobe Audition. > > > > Cheers > > > > Kylee > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Dan Rugman" <danrugman@xxxxxxxxxxx> > > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 11:35 AM > > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What makes sonar 5 more accessible for us what has > > changed? > > > > > >> Kylee, I'm sorry to say that Sonar is definitely not an audio editor. > >> Its > >> really just a midi sequencer with extended audio facilities. It's > > designed > >> for making music that also involves softsynths and hardsynths. I admit > > that > >> I sometimes use it for very corse edits but its no good for splicing or > >> tight crossfades. > >> > >> If you need to carry out fine edits then you'll need either SoundForge > > (for > >> one track stereo) or Adobe Audition (for multitrack), either is > > accessible. > >> > >> Its not just a question of resolution, the real difference is the ease of > >> navigating through the file. Both programs have keystrokes for > >> previewing > >> edits and playing up to the cursor, after the cursor and the few seconds > >> around the cursor. Its also much easier to move around in the file and > >> select regions of audio for editing. This is extremely important if > > you're > >> working to a deadline and have to move fast. > >> > >> Dan > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Kylee Maloney" <kylee@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 11:00 PM > >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What makes sonar 5 more accessible for us what has > >> changed? > >> > >> > >> > So how useful can any editor be if you can't control the zoom? Some of > >> > the > >> > edits I have to do in my work are quite fine and complex depending on > > the > >> > actuality and the talent. Is this not going to be up to the task? > > Should > >> > I > >> > just revert to SoundForge? > >> > > >> > Kylee > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Kevin L. Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxx> > >> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> > Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 4:38 AM > >> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What makes sonar 5 more accessible for us what > > has > >> > changed? > >> > > >> > > >> >> Actually, there doesn't appear to be any means of setting the scrub > > zoom > >> >> on the TranzPort either. It just seems to be set at a reasonable > >> >> default. > >> >> Kevin > >> >> > >> >> -----Original Message----- > >> >> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >> >> On Behalf Of Mike C > >> >> Sent: Thursday, July 06, 2006 3:18 AM > >> >> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What makes sonar 5 more accessible for us what > >> >> has changed? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> there aut to be a way in which any control surface could use the same > >> >> consept as the transport, meaning if you can emulate a mackey control > >> >> frontier should make it possible to allow for any control serface to > > use > >> >> the > >> >> scrubb feature. > >> >> > >> >> Acutally the scrubb feature works not to bad on my project mix, if > >> >> only > >> >> I > >> >> could figure how to set the scrub zoom, that would be grand. I'm > >> >> going > >> >> to > >> >> give the folks at M-audio a call, and see if they can't make it > > possible > >> >> to > >> >> allow to set the zoom. > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Gordon Kent" <dbmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 2:40 PM > >> >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What makes sonar 5 more accessible for us what > >> >> has > >> >> changed? > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > Yes, that's the beauty of it. > >> >> > Gord > >> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> > From: "Shawn Brock" <shawnbrock@xxxxxxxx> > >> >> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 10:34 PM > >> >> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What makes sonar 5 more accessible for us > >> >> > what > >> >> has > >> >> > changed? > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >> dumb question i guess... but can you use the tranzport with out > >> >> >> access to > >> >> >> the clips pain? thanks > >> >> >> Shawn Brock > >> >> >> Cincinnati Sound Lab > >> >> >> 130 East Sixth Street > >> >> >> Cincinnati Oh. > >> >> >> 45202 > >> >> >> Phone: 513-349-8541 > >> >> >> Web Site: > >> >> >> www.cincysoundlab.com > >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >> From: "Kevin L. Gibbs" <kevjazz@xxxxxxx> > >> >> >> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > >> >> >> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 6:54 PM > >> >> >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What makes sonar 5 more accessible for us > > what > >> >> has > >> >> >> changed? > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >>> Actually, the clips pane is not enabled because there is an > >> >> >>> inexpensive hardware based solution called the TranzPort from > >> >> >>> Frontier Design that scrubs far better than David's key based > >> >> >>> solution does. Only complaints from customers have compelled > >> >> >>> David > >> >> >>> to reimplement the old clips pane solution. However, and I can't > >> >> >>> stress this enough, the TranzPort is a far better idea. Customers > >> >> >>> were simply complaining because they didn't want to spend an > >> >> >>> additional couple hundred bucks. Trust me, though, it's worth it. > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> -----Original Message----- > >> >> >>> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> >>> [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > >> >> >>> On Behalf Of Bob > >> >> >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 04, 2006 3:45 PM > >> >> >>> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >> >> >>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: What makes sonar 5 more accessible for us > >> >> what > >> >> >>> has changed? > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> > >> >> >>> Dear Sean, > >> >> >>> There is a product update coming soon? > >> >> >>> Sounds good. > >> >> >>> I figured the Clips Pane was gone because Cake Walk modified > >> >> >>> something that broke the Cake Talking scripts. Hats off to David > >> >> >>> and anyone else working > >> >> >>> hard to improve this product. > >> >> >>> Bob. > >> >> >>> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> >>> From: "Sean A. 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