Why is this something that the DDots list can help you with? If you have already communicated with Dancing Dots, then they are the only people who can help. Did you try to call them? I would, if it were my money. (610) 783-6692 Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: blue wings To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, October 09, 2009 05:19 Subject: [ddots-l] Strange problem! Hi I have serious problem with ordering my upgrade of ct 8.5 I get the emails from dd that they can't take the money from my cart. I sent my second cart number in the email and it's still not working. I just want to buy the product, and pay for it, that's it! So where is the problem? I'm waiting for explanation from dancing dots and solution of this problem.