[ddots-l] Re: Sonar 4 information.
- From: "David Eagle" <deagle_889@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Tue, 1 Nov 2005 18:53:45 -0000
Ok! this is what I have done.
I make sure winamp is routed to my soundcard that sonar records from. Go to
preferences in winamp by pressing control p. Press the letter o and select
waveout, then tab to configur. press enter on that, and select your
soundcard from the list. Then press enter, and tab to close and enter on it.
Next you must make sure sonar is going to record the sound that's coming
straight from winamp. Oftn, sound cards will have a button that means you
can rout it straight tothe soundcard, but maybe yours doesn't. Sounds and
audio divices in control panel, tab to the audio page, and on recording
volume, make sure the volume control that isn' t line in, or mic is
checked. I don't think jaws gives it a name. Press record in sonar, and
start a file in winamp. We'll come to the pacemaker next. Find a file with a
steady beat obviously. Stop winamp and then check to see if the file has
recorded. If it has then:
Play the file back. OPen the pacemaker plugin, which I@ve explained how to
install on the other email. OPen the plugin with control and P for
preferences, then press the letter d for dsp plugins, tab to the list where
you select the plugins and find pacemaker. press enter on it and you're
ready to mix. Try and atch the tempos of hte two songs. The one in sonar and
the one playing in winamp. Inscidentally, you have to press control and f6
to get in to preferences from the pacemaker, then close that so you can play
another file in winamp. All this is very confusing and just something I do,
and can't remember how I did it at first. Match the tempos up by the same
way as mentioned above, in preferences and dsp. Pressing enter on the plugin
will open it. you press tab for the diferent options, tempo speed and pitch.
Play around with them till its beat matched with the sonar file. Then go to
sonar, mute and unarm the track you recorded last and start a new track
recording. Play the file in winamp. The rest is simple. You unmute the first
track, select the second track from when the music starts till the end and
cut. then when you get to the part of the first track you want to mix in to,
you paste it. It should be beat matched. If its not perfect, I often like to
keep cutting and pasting the track to get it in line continuously. This
makes for a nice digital sample kind of effect.
I bet that was a far too rubbish explanation to understand. If you're really
interested and couldn't follow that, I'm sure we can work it out in
instalments.
Enjoy the confusion.
Dave
--- Original Message -----
From: "Jason D." <Doorish_jason@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 2:34 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar 4 information.
> Please go on I'm interested as well in how to use winamp for mixing.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Eagle" <deagle_889@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2005 4:05 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar 4 information.
>
>
> > Sonar and sound forge both allow you to loop samples. I don't know how
> > much
> > information you know about how to do this, so I won't go any further in
to
> > it at the moment. I think you can do more with sound forge in terms of
> > loops
> > than sonar but I've never tried much in sound forge.
> >
> > Let's get on to what I do know then.
> > Sonar is great, but I think but not for djs, or at least not for me
> > anyway.
> > Here is what I use to mix.
> >
> > A copy of winamp. YOu can get it for free at
> >
> > www.winamp.com
> >
> > Then when you've installed that and, go to
> > www.winamp.com, go to the option which says search and type in
pacemaker.
> > You'll have to then press enter on the drop down menue and select
plugins,
> > hit the search button or go button as its called here, and download it.
> >
> > Using it is very simple.
> >
> >
> > I could go on, but if I'm on the wrong lines there's no point. If you
want
> > to try them steps first, let me know then I'll continue explaining.
> >
> > Inscidentally, i still use sonar for mixing, but we'll get to why and
how
> > later perhaps.
> >
> > Good luck till then.
> >
> > Dave ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 29, 2005 1:53 PM
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar 4 information.
> >
> >
> >> Dave,
> >>
> >> Sorry, my inexperience probably makes my terminology a little bit
> >> vague.
> >>
> >> I'd like to be able to take loops and samples that already exist and
> >> mix them together to form new tracks. I'd also like to be able to
extract
> >> samples from existing tracks and possibly in the far off future to be
> >> able
> >> to create my own tracks from scratch, although this won't be for quite
> > some
> >> time!
> >>
> >> As I said, I've got no experience of doing this, but I very much
> >> like to dance. I've often had some good ideas for dance/house music
> >> tracks
> >> that I'd like to dance to, usually based on liking an existing pop
song,
> >> which I think could be mixed in with a better bass beat and so forth.
> >>
> >> I very loosely know the rudiments of accomplishing this, as a friend
> >> of mine is a DJ, although he tends to mix live from vinyl records,
rather
> >> than digitally like I'm looking to.
> >>
> >> I hope this clarifies things a bit anyway.
> >>
> >> Tink.
> >>
> >> I'm also interested in using
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > On
> >> Behalf Of David Eagle
> >> Sent: 28 October 2005 18:55
> >> To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Sonar 4 information.
> >>
> >> Hi! When you say "mix dance music" I'm just trying to understand
exactly
> >> what you mean. Do you mean you want to record a dj set? Or would you
like
> > to
> >> remix a dance tracks? Or even make dance music of your own?
> >>
> >> Let me know and I'll see what I can do to help.
> >>
> >> Dave
> >>
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Tink Watson" <tink@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: "Dots L" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, October 28, 2005 3:34 PM
> >> Subject: [ddots-l] Sonar 4 information.
> >>
> >>
> >> > Afternoon,
> >> >
> >> > For somewhile I've been wanting to try my hand at mixing dance
> > music,
> >> > but have never managed to get around to it.
> >> >
> >> > I've tried one or two off the shelf products that do this, but
> >> naturally
> >> > they're not in the least accessible. I've also been trying to use
> >> > SoundForge, but with little or no success to speak of.
> >> >
> >> > I'm not sure whether the Sonar 4/CakeTalking packages are suited
> >> > for
> >> > this kind of activity, but they do at least seem to be the most
> > accessible
> >> > option.
> >> >
> >> > Could anyone advise me whether I could mix tracks with Sonar 4,
and
> >> > suggest how difficult it might be for a beginner to accomplish such a
> >> thing.
> >> >
> >> > Otherwise, if there are any resources, FAQs or similar that have
> >> > detailed informaton about both these applications, I'd be interested
to
> >> > know.
> >> >
> >> > Thanks,
> >> > Tink.
> >> > --
> >> > http://www.tink.co.uk/
> >> >
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