Thanks very much for the Trubitt recommendation. I ordered the "Mackie" book, plus the "Live Sound for Musicians" from his site, using the "discount" link where he will get a bit more money for each... I listened to some of the illustrative material from both books, on his site, and look forward to scanning them, as I like his idea of explaining the flow of thing which the Mackie manuals depend upon diagrams for, whereas he puts his diagrams in appendices... (grin) I'm going to try to get an e-mail address from his site, or the books when they arrive, as his web software doesn't like my e-mail client... (grin) Thanks for adding to the dialogue about the auditory tuners too. Nick On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:07:34 -0800 (PST), seattleguitarman wrote: Hi Folks, I was out of town and just returned to catch up on postings about Mackie mixers. A really good book that covers many of them including all the ones mentioned in the posts is: Mackie Compact Mixers by Rudy Trubitt. It is good at not only explaining the workings of Mackie mixers but also mixers in general. Additionally, I've written to him at his web site and he wrote back thanking my for compliments about his book and said I should write back if I had questions. His web site is at: http://www.trubitt.com/ Also, Mackie is located just North of where I live in Seattle. One woman who is a key player in web accessibility lives here in Seattle and her husband works there. If folks aren't getting accessible pdfs from them I could pass along requests through her. [She is out on maternity leave at the moment so that might take a month or two.] As a sighted user I can see that one major inaccessible aspect of their mixers is in the line level set up instruction. It has you set a few buttons and watch for the LED lights to be at a certain level. This too touches upon that other person's post about tuners with their visual cue for being in tune. Perhaps the workaround for each of these is some sensor that would sit atop the desired led light and then audibly chime to indicate that it has been reached. My Korg guitar tuner has not only a needle meter but also a two red triangle lights to indicate sharp or flat. Other tuners I've used have multi-color schemes. If the manufacturer can send a signal to a light when a note is sharp, flat, or on pitch (or too high in the case of a peak meter) then that same signal could be routed to something else. I'd imagine the best solution for the tuner would be an earphone output jack so that the tone wouldn't interfere with tuning. Doug Hayman __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq