[ddots-l] Re: MOTU / firewire & external AI compatibilities

  • From: "Phil Muir" <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:40:57 -0000

Thanks Nickus.  Those were the issues that Chris Bell had with M-audio under
Windows 7.




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-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Nickus de Vos
Sent: 09 November 2010 22:15
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: MOTU / firewire & external AI compatibilities


U'll have problems with m-audio cards under windows 7 they have crappy
drivers and support. You can't go wrong with focusrite, usb or firewire,
just check your firewire chipset -original message-
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: MOTU / firewire & external AI compatibilities
From: D!J!X! <megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Date: 09/11/2010 22:47

In terms of what we were discussing,  you do need to still get a
motherboard/pc with a Texas Instruments firewire chipset, or buy a separate
PCI/PCIE  firewire card with a Texas Instruments Chipset. This has been the
case for a long time now in the audio world, it has nothing to do with the
actual interfaces used. If you check in device manager and you have a texas
instrument 1394 controller, then you're fine. If you have something by
another brand, then you might want to look into getting a compatible T.I.
card. But I'd say try your interface on it first to see and then decide,
your performance might be ok with your current chipset.

HTH, D!J!X!

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Campbell, Wiley L. (Portland)
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 3:06 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: MOTU / firewire & external AI compatibilities 

Yes: Sorry about the confusion: I'm a legally blind staff computer
instructor / web manager for a large 2500 employee hospital in Portland
Oregon USA, and though fairly computer literate, the last time I dabbled in
music production was as a studio drummer in the analog 24 track dinosaur
days, almost 30 years ago. I am just getting back into music as a serious
hobbyist and whish to build a home DAW around my new Dell Win
7 64 bit PC. The chat that caught my attention was from earlier e-mail
excerpts regarding Texas Instrument chipsets (pasted below). I may have
missed an answer  thread but wish to buy a good external AI and my PC
doesn't appear to have T I firewire hardware. I'm very interested in
something like the FocusRite Pro 24 DSP, or perhaps even the MOTU
UltraLite-mk3 Hybrid if anyone wishes to comment on the latter. I apologize
if I gave any impression there was something undesirable about these brands,
if I did it was not intended ;)

Here's the 2 excerpts that triggered my concern / confusion;

Dancing dots Bill wrote: In general, is firewire support any simpler under
Windows7?  That is, do you have to take the same precautions when shopping
for your Windows7 DAW to make sure that there will not be firewire
incompatibilities as we did for XP?  It was not enough just to get an XP
machine with a firewire port.  That machine needed to have the Texas
Instruments flavor of firewire or certain firewire devices simply would
network.

AndD!J!X!" megamansuperior@xxxxxxxxxxx had written

I believe this is still the case, the T.I  requirement is more to do with
the chipset of the actual firewire bus/chipset. It's not driver or software
related... > What I'd like to know is which cards which use the Texas
instruments firewire chipset are the best, belken or buslink etc.

Thanks
Wiley Campbell
http://www.bigiota.com/Audio/Music.htm

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of D!J!X!
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 11:09 AM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: MOTU / firewire & external AI compatibilities 

I think that he meant that there has been a lot of discussion about these
items. He incorrectly assumed that we were talking about problems with these
devices; we started discussing  problems with m-audio stuff, but then the
subject of the messages were altered, to show the change in topic. At least
that's how I understood the message. But to clarify for the original poster,
we weren't speaking on how bad saffires and focusrite products were, just
the opposite. The only times negative things were said, were about m-audio
stuff and Bryan mentioning his experience with about 8 interfaces he tried
last month which sucked in term of accessibility. But if you did mean that
there have been problems with these interfaces specificly, please, I too
(like Phil), would like resources to look at, since I'll be purchasing one
soon.

HTH, D!J!X!

-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Phil Muir
Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 12:31 PM
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: MOTU / firewire & external AI compatibilities 

Where and what kinds of issues?  A number of us are using Focusrite devices
on firewire and I have heard 0 issues with these devices.  If there are any
then, I would certainly like to know as I recommend them to clients.
You
will need to be a lot more specific than that E.G, post URL's so that we can
all read about it. 




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-----Original Message-----
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On
Behalf Of Campbell, Wiley L. (Portland)
Sent: 09 November 2010 16:41
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] MOTU / firewire & external AI compatibilities 

Lot's of list chat on PC firewire problems with external Ai devices, e.
g. Texas Instruments chipsets / FocusRite.

Any experiences / opinions on list re accessibility / quality of the MOTU
stand alone AI's like UltraLite-mk3 Hybrid? This unit supports both USB &
Firewire.
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