[ddots-l] Re: Got another midi issue
- From: "Steve Wicketts" <steve.wicketts@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2010 12:46:57 -0000
Hi Tim,
The Controllers were all indeed set to 0, I'm wondering maybe the controllers
kept appearing because it's a dance style type hardware sequencer "RM1X", you
don't have pattern numbers instead you have 16 keyboard notes that you write
patterns on, this is so DJs may alternate the sequences. I simply write the
patterns and link them, each link must automatically add the controllers.
Steve W
From: Tim Burgess
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 8:37 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Got another midi issue
The controllers were probably inserted by that hardware sequencer to try and
make sure that the sound that you heard on playback was exactly what you heard
when recording, hence the controller reset, etc.. I suspect that if you
checked the data values for the rest you'd find that they are trying to ensure
that the sustain pedal was set to off and the mod wheel, etc. were set to zero.
Your hardware unit probably compensates for this automatically, but the serial
nature of MIDI means that your actual note messages were waiting for these
controllers to be sent out. Not sure why it would insert a full set before
each note event, though - I'd have expected a set at the start of the track
then no more.
I must admit that I nearly always kill any controllers on any MIDI file that
I import so that they don't get in the way of any of my own sound design
efforts.
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: 31 October 2010 19:58
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Got another midi issue
Hi Tim,
These are projects I did a while back, I'd step recorded them into a hardware
sequencer.
The control events only showed up when I recorded via midi from the hardware
sequencer to sonar.
The problem I had with these control events was, they were slowing down the
timing of the music so it no longer was sounding metronomic.
I really do appreciate all your help.
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Burgess
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2010 6:25 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Got another midi issue
Did you play the data in yourself, or did you import a MIDI file from
elsewhere?
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
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From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: 31 October 2010 13:22
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Got another midi issue
Hi Tim,
Thanks so much Tim it works a treat, I only kept controller and wheel
checked in the event view. I took great pleasure leaning on the delete key.
I noticed something very odd about the controllers, they were always:
controller 121, controller 64, controller 1, controller 0 and wheel controller.
those 5 repeated but on the same tick for example bar 7 beat 3 tick 361, would
have loads of those five controllers stacked up. They'd appear again on bar 12
beat 4 tick 721, always a 1 in the tick number, very odd.
It was like Ant nests, Well the empire of the Ants didn't survive thanks to
you.
Steve W
----- Original Message -----
From: Tim Burgess
To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2010 4:16 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Got another midi issue
Steve,
The easiest way is as follows:
1 - Go intot he Event View for the track;
2 - Press V to bring up the View Options dialog box;
3 - Tab through the various check boxes and uncheck all of the things you
don't want to see. In your example, the only thing you'll leave checked is
"Controllers";
4 - Go to the start of the track by pressing W;
5 - If you're confident that you've only got controller 64 messages on
the track, you can just lean on the Delete key until everything's gone away.
If you need to be more selective about what you're deleting (for example,
if you've got a mix of controller 64 and some others) you'd be best using the
Interpolate dialog to do the job, rather than the method described above.
Best wishes.
Tim Burgess
Raised Bar Ltd
Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822
Don't forget to vote for improved access to music and music technology at
http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm
From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Steve Wicketts
Sent: 30 October 2010 13:07
To: ddtots
Subject: [ddots-l] Got another midi issue
Hi Guys,
I'm updating a track which was originally done on a hardware sequencer. I
just seem to be missing a step when trying to delete the controllers.
I've selected the track press shift F3 for filter and isolated controller
64 then pressed enter. I go back to the event view and all controller 64's are
still sitting there like a load of Ants who are immune to Ant powder.
How do you delete midi controllers yet keep the note events?
Thanks for any help on this one.
Steve W
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