[ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.

  • From: "shawn brock" <shawnbrock@xxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 09:39:02 -0500

thats the way i feel!  like i said  i hav worked on pro sessions, and tuned
by ere and hav never had a problem  but i would like to try this thing.  i
just wonder how fast one cantune with this out fit.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Ilkster" <The_Ilkster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 8:07 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.


> I know what you mean shawn.  I've always tuned by ear, and with reasonably
> good result.  It's just that I can't resista gizmo.  Its kind of like
> relying on a calculator to do arithmetic, I can do it in my head, but I
want
> one anyway.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "shawn brock" <shawnbrock@xxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 5:57 PM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.
>
>
> > hmm this is intristing.  i hav worked on a lot of sessions and hav
allways
> > tuned my instrament with out help.  the only thing i ever used was a
> > tuneing
> > fork.  otherwise i would tune to the track or to one of the players.  i
> > hav
> > little confidence in electronic tuners.  but i would hav to sey i would
> > not
> > mind giving this a try.  how larg is this tuner?  and what would it cost
> > one
> > with the pick up?  thanks!
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Christer" <mc3203@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2006 12:22 PM
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.
> >
> >
> > Ilkster,
> >
> > The beeps simply sound when you are in tune, there is no indication of a
> > flat or sharp condition.
> > The separate sound you can sound at will, can simply act as a guide.
For
> > instance, if you're in an open tuning mode, if you press the up/down
> > buttons
> > for sounding the guide beep, it'll go up and down the open chord tuning,
> > just giving you an idea of what you need to achieve in that particular
> > tuning!
> >
> > Mike
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
> > behalf of "Ilkster" <The_Ilkster@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: 07 March 2006 00:17
> > To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.
> >
> > Michael,
> >
> > I was a little unclear on your description of the workings of the Boss T
> > U-15.
> > Are these "beeps" that it emits tones that you then have to tune to by
> > ear,
> > or do they get sounded by the tuner when you're in tune-as sort of a
> > audible
> > version of the "sharp-flat" lights found on digital tuners.
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Christer" <mc3203@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Monday, March 06, 2006 6:54 PM
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.
> >
> >
> > Hey there Randy!
> >
> > I have 2 completely different methods of tuning perfectly!
> > Although I don't possess 'perfect pitch', I have 'relative' pitch.
> > If there is something even the slightest bit out of tune, I know it,
even
> > sooner, and more accurately, than some of my friends who actually have
> > this
> > 'mysterious gift'.
> >
> > Both of these things, however, are man-made!
> > The first is a tuner made by Boss.  It's called the T U-15.  It tells
you
> > by
> > means of a series of beeps, when the particular note you're tuning
reaches
> > the correct pitch.
> > It does this by playing the beeps in the same pitch as the string/note
> > that
> > you're trying to tune!  This tuner cost me £55 sterling.
> >
> > It is a little complex, in as much as, it's got several buttons on the
> > front
> > surface.  But, with a brief period of sighted assistance, you can learn
> > the
> > layout.
> > The features include a button which will play the note of a specified
> > string
> > you wish to tune.  This is adjustable with a pair of up and down
buttons.
> > You can adjust the pitch by individual 'cents, or set the tuner to
'bass'
> > guitar mode.  The last feature is a series of open tunings, these are a
> > little trickier to set-up, and quite frankly, I've only been there with
> > sighted help.
> > Nevertheless, the bloody thing is somewhat of a Godsend!!!
> >
> > My second nugget of information is a tuner which actually tunes the
guitar
> > for you!
> > You probably don't believe me, but I kid you not!
> > This little marvel is called the Stringmaster Robotic guitar tuner.
(see
> > the address below).
> > It actually turns the tuning peg for you.  Admittedly, there is a knack
to
> > it, but it is so incredibly accurate, I can't fault it!
> >
> > Here is the website:
> >
> > http://www.actiontuners.com/
> >
> > Again, just like the other tuner, it also emits a beep when the correct
> > pitch is reached.  It cost $49.00, and for an extra $15 you can get a
> > transducer pick-up, so you can tune acoustic instruments without an
> > internal
> > pick-up.
> >
> > I honestly think that this was a small price to pay for an age-old
> > problem,
> > and although both of these tuners aren't ultra simple to use, it's a
> > hundred
> > times better than pfaffing around trying to tune an instrument, that if
> > truth be known, is actually impossible to tune!
> >
> > Good luck,
> >
> > Mike
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
> > behalf of "Randy" <clifford@xxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: 06 March 2006 10:44
> > To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.
> >
> > Here's a question a little off subject I guess.  When recording falt top
> > uitars,  ho2w does blind person withot perfect pitch tune the
instrument?
> > It's not alwys possible to have sighted person to read electronic tuner.
> > I'd appreciate any suggestions.  Randy
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Michael Christer" <mc3203@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 11:19 AM
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.
> >
> >
> > Hey Phill!
> >
> > That's just the way that I'd do it!
> > Some people really get bogged down with tech crap, so much so, that on
> > occasion I've been afraid to move, in case of ruining the bloody
> > producer/engineers handy-work!!!
> > But, admittedly, I've had four mikes on me at the time...
> >
> > M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: "ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on
> > behalf of "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: 04 March 2006 11:26
> > To: "ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx" <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.
> >
> >
> > Well, when miking up an acoustic guitar, I personally place a mike
> > pointing directly at the fet boards, somewhere beyond the 12th fret.
> >
> > Regards, Phil Muir
> >
> > P J Muir Productions
> > www.philmuir.com/
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: kurt Streuber <mailto:kurt@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:39 AM
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.
> >
> > Where are you placing the mike?  For acoustics, I often have to
> > move the mic around for the best response.  Often closer to the bridge
> > will give you a bit more top end, but sometimes you lose some of the
> > fullness.  In my previous post, I referred to a technique called Ortf,
> > where you use two mics in a stereo pattern.  I use this for guitar a
> > lot, and it sounds great.  Bassically, you have two mics crossing over
> > each other so the capsules are 120 degrees off axis to each other, and
> > about 6 inches apart.  You can do this with a T bar on one mic stand.
> > Hope this helps.
> > Kurt
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Laurie Simpson <mailto:simp749@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:01 PM
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.
> >
> >
> > Gordon,
> >
> >
> >
> > I definitely like the C3 for vocals.  It just seems to
> > record the acoustic guitar too dark.  Maybe I need to use an effect or
> > do something with eq along with using the C3?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks to all for your suggestions!
> >
> >
> >
> > Laurie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Gordon Kent
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 2:38 PM
> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Good guitar mic.
> >
> >
> >
> > I'm really surprised you wouldn't like the c3.  If you
> > are looking for a little more edge, you may want to try the audiotenica
> > 4330 (I think that is the model number).  Also, believe it or not, the
> > behringer b2 pro has quite a nice top end, and it is cheap in usual
> > behinger fashion.
> >
> > Gord
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> > From: Laurie Simpson
> > <mailto:simp749@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >
> > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 11:41 AM
> >
> > Subject: [ddots-l] Good guitar mic.
> >
> >
> >
> > I know there have been mic discussions here
> > before and I can't remember what the suggestions were.  What would
> > people recommend as a great mic for mic'ing guitar?  Is there one out
> > there for less than $500?  I've tried the Studio Projects C3 and, though
> > I get a wonderful quality of sound, I'm looking for that little extra
> > punch.  I also have a Shure Ksm27.  Is that a better choice?  Is there
> > one I don't have which would be even better?
> >
> >
> >
> > Looking for ideas.
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks again!
> >
> >
> >
> > Laurie
> >
> >
> >
> >
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