[ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5
- From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 19:18:59 -0000
LOL!! Always glad to help out if I can.
Regards, Phil Muir
P J Muir Productions
www.philmuir.com/
----- Original Message -----
From: "hf" <neep23@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 6:47 PM
Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5
> Thank you Phil, although you have lots of hands... I found them very
> informative and quite
> helpful.
> HF
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 10:30 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5
>
>
>> Hmm, good question. Not sure really. For example, CT handles affects
>> dialog boxes such as the
>> Cakewalk FX EQ, a bit better than the free scripts do. Meaning that all of
>> the buttons and
>> sliders are fully scripted for. On the other hand, the guys who write the
>> free scripts are
>> improving boxes like this all of the time so, I guess it could be a matter
>> of time until dialog
>> boxes such as this have been totally scripted. Also, the free scripts, tend
>> to encourage the
>> user to use keystrokes that are already built into Sonar, rather than
>> implementing new keystrokes
>> that are a feature of CT. I personally don't think that's a bad thing at all
>> as I personally feel
>> that it's better for the user to learn the host application, rather than
>> learning CT which, is a
>> bolted on to Sonar. I have taken this approach as most of my clients are
>> sighted. Also, I
>> personally like to be able to have the option to work without applications
>> such as CT. This has
>> enabled me to get into using Sonar 5 early on as CT isn't available for that
>> yet.
>>
>> Having said all that, I am not knocking CT as there could be some people out
>> there who would find
>> exclusively using Sonar on it's own with free scripts, too much of a
>> learning curve. CT comes
>> with a ton of well written documentation which, if you don't have any
>> working knowledge of the
>> audio and MIDI environment, could be useful. Having said that, I haven't
>> ever really need to or,
>> used any of the tutorials that ship with CT as I find the Sonar help system,
>> more than adequate
>> for my needs.
>>
>> On the other hand, CT does seem to make the Sonar environment a bit more
>> robust. Meaning that,
>> if you click on something E.G, such as opening a softsynthe then, CT will do
>> exactly what it is
>> supposed to. Also, pressing function key F2 in order to read and reset
>> record and playback
>> metres, is far less clunky than the free scripts alt control and the letter
>> M.
>>
>> my conclusion on this is that to go from Using CT to free scripts is
>> probably less of a learning
>> curve if you never used CT and Cakewalk Pro Audio 9. I am one such user who
>> never did use CT
>> with Cakewalk Pro Audio at all. I barely used Cakewalk Pro Audio at all and
>> when I did, that was
>> with free scripts that shipped with Jaws. I started using Sonar, long
>> before any scripts were
>> available, free or CT.
>>
>> On the other hand, I find some of the keyboard shortcuts that have been
>> implemented in the free
>> scripts, a bit more intuitive in the track view. For example, control,
>> shift, and the letter f,
>> will jump you to the affects column, Control shift and N, for the name
>> column, control shift and
>> V, for the volume column and control shift and P for the pan column. I
>> personally find that way
>> easier than having to try and remember how many times I need to press a
>> keystroke in CT in order
>> to jump to say, column 10 in the track view.
>>
>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>
>> P J Muir Productions
>> www.philmuir.com/
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "hf" <neep23@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:10 PM
>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5
>>
>>
>>> Having used both, Phil what can't you do with the free scripts that you can
>>> do easier with CT?
>>> And vice versa.
>>> HF
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Phil Muir" <philmuir1@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 4:19 AM
>>> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: CT4 & Sonar 5
>>>
>>>
>>>> CT 4 doesn't work with Sonar 5. You will ether need to wait for CT for
>>>> Sonar 5 to come out or,
>>>> use the free Jaws scripts that are available. Note: Dancing Dots don't
>>>> support the free
>>>> scripts. Having said that, they do work quite well.
>>>>
>>>> Regards, Phil Muir
>>>>
>>>> P J Muir Productions
>>>> www.philmuir.com/
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "David P Shortland" <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 12:52 AM
>>>> Subject: [ddots-l] CT4 & Sonar 5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Greetings from Down Under....:)
>>>>>
>>>>> Is anyone using CT4 with Sonar 5?
>>>>>
>>>>> CT4 and Sonar 4.03 are very happy together, just having a little trouble
>>>>> when I start getting
>>>>> a lot of trax (around 30 or so) with plugs in etc etc... I feel that JAWS
>>>>> loses focus quite a
>>>>> lot and cannot find name of trax or even locate trax themselves.
>>>>>
>>>>> I did read somewhere to locate a track by name , but could not find it on
>>>>> reread of CT
>>>>> Tutorial, perhaps someone could point me in the correct direction?....:)
>>>>>
>>>>> I do not wish to compromise my system if I install Sonar 5.
>>>>>
>>>>> With much thanx....
>>>>>
>>>>> David
>>>>>
>>>>> (Still really really enjOying CT) ....:)
>>>>>
>>>>>
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