Jason, "Are there other programs or is sonar it." IF you need access due to visual impairment, then I think so. ----- Original Message ----- Dave From: "Jason" <Doorish_jason@xxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, 04 July, 2005 9:29 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Am I in over my head? thank you for saying that. I just feel like exactly what you said. I'm in grad school of sound engineering but I haven't been in first grade yet. I guess I didn't realize how pro audio sonar really is. Are there other programs or is sonar it. ----- Original Message ----- From: "David" <dheilman1@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 9:30 AM Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Am I in over my head? > Stephanie, your not the only one on this list that looks at much of what > gets posted and has very little understanding to what is being said. I > can read the words, but I know little more after the read than before it. > > I tend to look at it as eating an Elephant, and if I look at the Elephant > as a huge animal that I have to eat all at once, I get overwhelmed. Bite > by bite is how I learn this recording software as well as computers in > general. > > There is no doubt that this stuff is complicated on several levels. > Learning to set up the software so it will even work, then getting your > screen reader to work with it, then learning the baby steps of recording > a track. Then learning a few terms along the way. Then learning to alter > the recording levels, the recorded sound, and the play back. then comes > setting up the Mix. Plus a lot of other things in between what I have > already said. > > Not only do you need to learn and practise your favorite instrument, but > running the software is a lot like playing an instrument. It too > requires much practise before your efforts begin sounding good. > > I bought Sonar and after getting it, I realized that Sonar is WAY more > than what I needed. Hey, I just wanted to do some simple recording and > play back. but instead, I bought the top of the line professional > recording package when I should have bought something a lot less > professional. > > <Chuckle> But, I'm into it far enough, I can not really go backwards, so > I press on, with some grumbling and griping along the way. > > So even though your an accomplished Pianist, its back to walking Baby > steps when it comes to recording. And your not the only one taking Baby > steps. I'm sure there are a lot of us out here. > > I can't help but wonder how many of us buy equipment that we hope to use > and soon find that we can not get it to work with either our screen > readers, or just can not master it well enough to get anything useful out > of it. So it sits on the shelf. > > > A > the problem I see with most manuals is that they are often written by > someone that is extremely familiar with what ever the software might be. > They assume you the new user, knows more than you actually do. People > that are deeply familiar with something have a very difficult time > breaking it down into very basic beginner baby steps for the person that > really knows nothing. And I do mean nothing. > > > For most of us, It is like being thrown into a college course and we have > yet to attend grade school and high school. > > So I am very grateful for lists like this one where others who have jumped > into this recording pond before me, have found the answers ahead of me. > I can ask them and if I get an answer that is full of terms I do not > understand, I then ask them to give it to me again in baby language. > > Hopefully I can come up to speed and I then can help others coming into > this experience after me. > > > <Smile> Now if I can just get my computer to play a Midi file I'll be one > more tiny baby step closer to my goal. > > Cheers! > > David > > t 05:19 AM 7/4/2005, you wrote: >>Hi, >> >>Have to agree with you there! It's hard, and the manual is dry reading. >>Not only that, but I never learned Windows thoroughly or correctly. I'm a >>concert pianist, piano teacher and composer, not a professional sound >>engineer! >> >>I got Sibelius and Sibelius Speaking at the same time. The manual for that >>is much easier. What do you do with music? Just curious and very relieved >>to find someone else on this list who's a beginner with the guts to say >>so. (I mean, just looking at the subject lines of the messages gets me >>confused. Are they in English or what?) >> >>Stephanie >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:Doorish_jason@xxxxxxxxxxx>Jason >>To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:14 AM >>Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Am I in over my head? >> >>yeah pretty much the other thing is half the lessons I'm like am I ever >>going to need to do this?. >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <mailto:stephpieck@xxxxxxxxxxx>Stephanie Pieck >>To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx >>Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 9:01 AM >>Subject: [ddots-l] Am I in over my head? >> >>Hi, >> >>I'm new to this list, new to CT and SONAR, and I can agree that starting >>out is really hard! But I figure there are about fifty lessons in the CT >>manual. If I do one a week, maybe in a year I'll have a clue! >> >>Stephanie >> > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the > Subject:- faq > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq