Hello Dave and others, I think that the tutorials that ship with Sonar is great for both beginners and for advance users the same. I started with Cakewalk pro audio 9 and caketalking for that program about 3 years ago. I started out knowing absolutely nothing other than being able to play my keyboard. However, through reading the tutorials and applying the material discussed in the tutorials I've learned an offal lot. I've just upgraded to Sonar 4 producer and caketalking 4, I have purchased a computer from dancing dots, I've purchased an external sound card, a mixer, monitors and some studio mics and I'm up and running. There's so much I don't know yet but it's in the tutorials for the most part and whatever isn't covered can be found right here on this list. I strongly encourage you all to hang in there, take some quality time with the tutorials and your gear and ask questions yes, even the silly questions because we know that only stupid question is the question that goes unasked. Thanks > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] > On Behalf Of David > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 10:30 AM > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Am I in over my head? > > Stephanie, your not the only one on this list that looks at much of what > gets posted and has very little understanding to what is being said. I > can > read the words, but I know little more after the read than before it. > > I tend to look at it as eating an Elephant, and if I look at the Elephant > as a huge animal that I have to eat all at once, I get overwhelmed. Bite > by bite is how I learn this recording software as well as computers in > general. > > There is no doubt that this stuff is complicated on several > levels. Learning to set up the software so it will even work, then > getting > your screen reader to work with it, then learning the baby steps of > recording a track. Then learning a few terms along the way. Then > learning > to alter the recording levels, the recorded sound, and the play > back. then comes setting up the Mix. Plus a lot of other things in > between what I have already said. > > Not only do you need to learn and practise your favorite instrument, but > running the software is a lot like playing an instrument. It too > requires much practise before your efforts begin sounding good. > > I bought Sonar and after getting it, I realized that Sonar is WAY more > than > what I needed. Hey, I just wanted to do some simple recording and play > back. but instead, I bought the top of the line professional recording > package when I should have bought something a lot less professional. > > <Chuckle> But, I'm into it far enough, I can not really go backwards, so > I > press on, with some grumbling and griping along the way. > > So even though your an accomplished Pianist, its back to walking Baby > steps > when it comes to recording. And your not the only one taking Baby > steps. I'm sure there are a lot of us out here. > > I can't help but wonder how many of us buy equipment that we hope to use > and soon find that we can not get it to work with either our screen > readers, or just can not master it well enough to get anything useful out > of it. So it sits on the shelf. > > > A > the problem I see with most manuals is that they are often written by > someone that is extremely familiar with what ever the software might > be. They assume you the new user, knows more than you actually > do. People that are deeply familiar with something have a very difficult > time breaking it down into very basic beginner baby steps for the person > that really knows nothing. And I do mean nothing. > > > For most of us, It is like being thrown into a college course and we have > yet to attend grade school and high school. > > So I am very grateful for lists like this one where others who have jumped > into this recording pond before me, have found the answers ahead of me. > I > can ask them and if I get an answer that is full of terms I do not > understand, I then ask them to give it to me again in baby language. > > Hopefully I can come up to speed and I then can help others coming into > this experience after me. > > > <Smile> Now if I can just get my computer to play a Midi file I'll be one > more tiny baby step closer to my goal. > > Cheers! > > David > > t 05:19 AM 7/4/2005, you wrote: > >Hi, > > > >Have to agree with you there! It's hard, and the manual is dry reading. > >Not only that, but I never learned Windows thoroughly or correctly. I'm a > >concert pianist, piano teacher and composer, not a professional sound > engineer! > > > >I got Sibelius and Sibelius Speaking at the same time. The manual for > that > >is much easier. What do you do with music? Just curious and very relieved > >to find someone else on this list who's a beginner with the guts to say > >so. (I mean, just looking at the subject lines of the messages gets me > >confused. Are they in English or what?) > > > >Stephanie > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <mailto:Doorish_jason@xxxxxxxxxxx>Jason > >To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 11:14 AM > >Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Am I in over my head? > > > >yeah pretty much the other thing is half the lessons I'm like am I ever > >going to need to do this?. > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: <mailto:stephpieck@xxxxxxxxxxx>Stephanie Pieck > >To: <mailto:ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > >Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 9:01 AM > >Subject: [ddots-l] Am I in over my head? > > > >Hi, > > > >I'm new to this list, new to CT and SONAR, and I can agree that starting > >out is really hard! But I figure there are about fifty lessons in the CT > >manual. If I do one a week, maybe in a year I'll have a clue! > > > >Stephanie > > > > ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] > ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: > ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > ** and in the Subject line type > ** unsubscribe > ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the > ** immediately-following link:- > ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] > ** or send a message, to > ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.8/37 - Release Date: 7/1/2005 ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq