I'm thinking that if we are all serious about pursuing this project, then a potential PDA device would be more practical. If we were to use a laptop on stage for this kind of thing, then we may as well use sonar to access everything like we do in the studio. --- Tim Burgess <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Hi, > > I'd use a laptop although I suppose there's > potential in the rise of > accessible PDA devices - haven't seen a MIDI > interface for one of those yet, > though. > > -----Original Message----- > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On > Behalf Of omar binno > Sent: 25 November 2005 11:49 > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards? > > Hi Tim: > > Would this screen reader be dependent on a computer > though, or is it a > separate device capable of functioning > independently? > > --- Tim Burgess <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > The ideal way would be to take the output from > your screen reader into > > your keyboard mixer then use headphones > (noise-cancellers would be > > ideal) to monitor your speech and foldback > outputs). > > > > Cheers. > > > > Tim > > -----Original Message----- > > From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of > omar binno > > Sent: 25 November 2005 11:20 > > To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx > > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards? > > > > Good idea. My question is though, if we need a > computer for a device > > like this; how can such a device be used on stage > for those of us who > > use our synths a lot in live performances? > > > > --- Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > > I agree with what you are saying Nick, if a > > keyboard were to be made > > > accessible, it should be done through a midi > > channel of some sort, > > > where the computer would output the speech from > > the unit. It would > > > be silly to have speech ouput from a unit itself > > as you wouldn't want > > > to have some device talking through a PA system > > while doing a gig. > > > furthermore if an accessible > > > medium were to be implimented I'm sure that > folks > > on the list who own > > > older modules such as the Yamaha EMU90, or Korg > > Triton wouldn't want > > > to give up those units just to purchase an > > accessible unit worth > > > thousands of dollars. > > > Again my opinion is that the accessible part > would > > have to be > > > implimented through a midi channel, and have > > output spoken on the > > > computer, or braille display itself. > > > > > > I know myself that I love my Fantom XR, and I > > wouldn't trade it for > > > anything at this point in time. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "W. Nick Dotson" > <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:37 AM > > > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards? > > > > > > > > > >I certainly think you're on the right page. > > Seems > > > to me that having > > > >manufacturer's get behind a subset of the MIDI > > > standard, to allow their > > > >devices to send > > > > data in a manner analagous to the way that > some > > of > > > the Kurzweil's do, Dave > > > > Scrimenti (spelling?) and his brother used, > > might > > > be the direction. The > > > > less > > > > well-thought out less well articulated the > > > request, the sillier will be > > > > the results. This is the kind of thing that > it > > > would be good to have > > > > someone get behind > > > > and present to manufacturer's meetings at > N.A.M. > > > or similar industry-wide > > > > conferences. I would think, for instance, > > getting > > > the CakeWalk folks, > > > > perhaps > > > > because of Jerry knowing them, the ProTools > > folks, > > > to present a combined > > > > proposal to hardware manufacturer's, with say > > > Jerry, the JSonar, and > > > > Dancing > > > > Dots putting together the "wish list" and > > > suggested means by which this > > > > could be accomplished, which would then be > > > endorsed by the software folks > > > > previously mentioned. I would say, for > > instance, > > > allow the end-user of a > > > > device tp press a button, maybe with a > > > standardized shape or symbol on it, > > > > which > > > > would envoke the data transfer process on a > > > specific channel, so that > > > > commencement of the control process could be > > done > > > by a blind device owner > > > > independently... > > > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:27:22 -0700, Sean A. > > > Cummins wrote: > > > > > > > > WHOA! GANG! Please stop and think about what > > you > > > are asking for! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am all for asking companies to help, but > let's > > > not corner ourselves into > > > > only one answer. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > True accessibility is opening the doors to > many > > > options and not just one. > > > > I > > > > don't know about the rest of you, but I own > many > > > different types of > > > > Microphones and many different types of > guitars > > > and other instruments > > > > RIGHT?! So why would I want to have only one > > > keyboard company making an > > > > accessible keyboard. OH, I know, we can write > > all > > > of them, but we'll be > > > > lucky if one even gives such a small market a > > > second thought. Rather, we > > > > need to approach an individual or individuals > > that > > > can get us access to > > > > all > > > > of the MIDI devices that are all ready passing > > > data free from one to the > > > > other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I had been pioneering a MIDI music system for > > the > > > blind way back in the > > > > early eighties, and the best thing to have > ever > > > happen to the industry was > > > > the development of the MIDI interface. This > > > happens to be one of the only > > > > industries that sat down and worked out a > > standard > > > by which all computer > > > > based instrument could exchange data and > control > > > one another. This data > > > > flow is our key to accessibility! We just > need > > to > > > find the person and or > === message truncated === Omar Binno " Everything is possible; it's just that the impossible things take a little longer to figure out!" - Author Unknown ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq