The ideal way would be to take the output from your screen reader into your keyboard mixer then use headphones (noise-cancellers would be ideal) to monitor your speech and foldback outputs). Cheers. Tim -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of omar binno Sent: 25 November 2005 11:20 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards? Good idea. My question is though, if we need a computer for a device like this; how can such a device be used on stage for those of us who use our synths a lot in live performances? --- Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I agree with what you are saying Nick, if a keyboard were to be made > accessible, it should be done through a midi channel of some sort, > where the computer would output the speech from the unit. It would > be silly to have speech ouput from a unit itself as you wouldn't want > to have some device talking through a PA system while doing a gig. > furthermore if an accessible > medium were to be implimented I'm sure that folks on the list who own > older modules such as the Yamaha EMU90, or Korg Triton wouldn't want > to give up those units just to purchase an accessible unit worth > thousands of dollars. > Again my opinion is that the accessible part would have to be > implimented through a midi channel, and have output spoken on the > computer, or braille display itself. > > I know myself that I love my Fantom XR, and I wouldn't trade it for > anything at this point in time. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:37 AM > Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards? > > > >I certainly think you're on the right page. Seems > to me that having > >manufacturer's get behind a subset of the MIDI > standard, to allow their > >devices to send > > data in a manner analagous to the way that some of > the Kurzweil's do, Dave > > Scrimenti (spelling?) and his brother used, might > be the direction. The > > less > > well-thought out less well articulated the > request, the sillier will be > > the results. This is the kind of thing that it > would be good to have > > someone get behind > > and present to manufacturer's meetings at N.A.M. > or similar industry-wide > > conferences. I would think, for instance, getting > the CakeWalk folks, > > perhaps > > because of Jerry knowing them, the ProTools folks, > to present a combined > > proposal to hardware manufacturer's, with say > Jerry, the JSonar, and > > Dancing > > Dots putting together the "wish list" and > suggested means by which this > > could be accomplished, which would then be > endorsed by the software folks > > previously mentioned. I would say, for instance, > allow the end-user of a > > device tp press a button, maybe with a > standardized shape or symbol on it, > > which > > would envoke the data transfer process on a > specific channel, so that > > commencement of the control process could be done > by a blind device owner > > independently... > > > > Nick > > > > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:27:22 -0700, Sean A. > Cummins wrote: > > > > WHOA! GANG! Please stop and think about what you > are asking for! > > > > > > > > I am all for asking companies to help, but let's > not corner ourselves into > > only one answer. > > > > > > > > True accessibility is opening the doors to many > options and not just one. > > I > > don't know about the rest of you, but I own many > different types of > > Microphones and many different types of guitars > and other instruments > > RIGHT?! So why would I want to have only one > keyboard company making an > > accessible keyboard. OH, I know, we can write all > of them, but we'll be > > lucky if one even gives such a small market a > second thought. Rather, we > > need to approach an individual or individuals that > can get us access to > > all > > of the MIDI devices that are all ready passing > data free from one to the > > other. > > > > > > > > I had been pioneering a MIDI music system for the > blind way back in the > > early eighties, and the best thing to have ever > happen to the industry was > > the development of the MIDI interface. This > happens to be one of the only > > industries that sat down and worked out a standard > by which all computer > > based instrument could exchange data and control > one another. This data > > flow is our key to accessibility! We just need to > find the person and or > > persons that would continue to bring all of the > concepts together. > > > > > > > > I would even venture to say that a foundation like > the Microsoft > > Foundation > > would underwrite the development of the technology > if one were to organize > > and manage just such a project. > > > > > > > > Data is the key to freedom and not necessarily > hardware. > > > > > > > > Give a man a fish. and he eats for a day! > > > > Teach a man to fish. and he eats for a lifetime! > > > > > > > > In my opinion, this is just what Dancing Dots has > done for us all ready! > > I > > propose that someone take up the cause of finding > Dancing Dots the > > underwriters for their and our benefit! > > > > > > > > God bless you all this Thanksgiving! > > > > > > > > Sean A. 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