[ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?

  • From: "Tim Burgess" <tim@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:47:39 -0000

The ideal way would be to take the output from your screen reader into your
keyboard mixer then use headphones (noise-cancellers would be ideal) to
monitor your speech and foldback outputs).  

Cheers.

Tim
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Sent: 25 November 2005 11:20
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Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?

Good idea. My question is though, if we need a computer for a device like
this; how can such a device be used on stage for those of us who use our
synths a lot in live performances?

--- Mike C <m_dsmusic@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> I agree with what you are saying Nick, if a keyboard were to be made 
> accessible, it should be done through a midi channel of some sort, 
> where the computer would output the speech from the  unit.  It would 
> be silly to have speech ouput from a unit itself as you wouldn't want 
> to have some device talking through a PA system while doing a gig.
> furthermore if an accessible
> medium were to be implimented I'm sure that folks on the list who own 
> older modules such as the Yamaha EMU90, or Korg Triton wouldn't want 
> to give up those units just to purchase an accessible unit worth 
> thousands of dollars.
> Again my opinion is that the accessible part would have to be 
> implimented through a midi channel, and have output spoken on the 
> computer, or braille display itself.
> 
> I know myself that I love my Fantom XR, and I wouldn't trade it for 
> anything at this point in time.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "W. Nick Dotson" <nickdotson@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 11:37 AM
> Subject: [ddots-l] Re: Accessible keyboards?
> 
> 
> >I certainly think you're on the right page.  Seems
> to me that having 
> >manufacturer's get behind a subset of the MIDI
> standard, to allow their 
> >devices to send
> > data in a manner analagous to the way that some of
> the Kurzweil's do, Dave 
> > Scrimenti (spelling?) and his brother used, might
> be the direction.  The 
> > less
> > well-thought out less well articulated the
> request, the sillier will be 
> > the results.  This is the kind of thing that it
> would be good to have 
> > someone get behind
> > and present to manufacturer's meetings at N.A.M.
> or similar industry-wide 
> > conferences.  I would think, for instance, getting
> the CakeWalk folks, 
> > perhaps
> > because of Jerry knowing them, the ProTools folks,
> to present a combined 
> > proposal to hardware manufacturer's, with say
> Jerry, the JSonar, and 
> > Dancing
> > Dots putting together the "wish list" and
> suggested means by which this 
> > could be accomplished, which would then be
> endorsed by the software folks
> > previously mentioned.  I would say, for instance,
> allow the end-user of a 
> > device tp press a button, maybe with a
> standardized shape or symbol on it, 
> > which
> > would envoke the data transfer process on a
> specific channel, so that 
> > commencement of the control process could be done
> by a blind device owner
> > independently...
> >
> > Nick
> >
> > On Wed, 23 Nov 2005 22:27:22 -0700, Sean A.
> Cummins wrote:
> >
> > WHOA! GANG!  Please stop and think about what you
> are asking for!
> >
> >
> >
> > I am all for asking companies to help, but let's
> not corner ourselves into
> > only one answer.
> >
> >
> >
> > True accessibility is opening the doors to many
> options and not just one. 
> > I
> > don't know about the rest of you, but I own many
> different types of
> > Microphones and many different types of guitars
> and other instruments
> > RIGHT?!  So why would I want to have only one
> keyboard company making an
> > accessible keyboard.  OH, I know, we can write all
> of them, but we'll be
> > lucky if one even gives such a small market a
> second thought.  Rather, we
> > need to approach an individual or individuals that
> can get us access to 
> > all
> > of the MIDI devices that are all ready passing
> data free from one to the
> > other.
> >
> >
> >
> > I had been pioneering a MIDI music system for the
> blind way back in the
> > early eighties, and the best thing to have ever
> happen to the industry was
> > the development of the MIDI interface.  This
> happens to be one of the only
> > industries that sat down and worked out a standard
> by which all computer
> > based instrument could exchange data and control
> one another.  This data
> > flow is our key to accessibility!  We just need to
> find the person and or
> > persons that would continue to bring all of the
> concepts together.
> >
> >
> >
> > I would even venture to say that a foundation like
> the Microsoft 
> > Foundation
> > would underwrite the development of the technology
> if one were to organize
> > and manage just such a project.
> >
> >
> >
> > Data is the key to freedom and not necessarily
> hardware.
> >
> >
> >
> > Give a man a fish. and he eats for a day!
> >
> > Teach a man to fish. and he eats for a lifetime!
> >
> >
> >
> > In my opinion, this is just what Dancing Dots has
> done for us all ready! 
> > I
> > propose that someone take up the cause of finding
> Dancing Dots the
> > underwriters for their and our benefit!
> >
> >
> >
> > God bless you all this Thanksgiving!
> >
> >
> >
> > Sean A. Cummins
> >
> >
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