Hi Tim, I guess you and I could talk privately, but hang it. Others here may agree or disagree with the following. Your survey is a great idea, but is like a petition with a silent majority. Why don't you ask ME how many music customers I have? I can't legally give you names, but I can perhaps give you numbers. How many colleges have how many students? - perhaps I can at least help with names of colleges with known VS.. students. You can then ask them for numbers I'm sure we can get that 200 way up. George. -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Tim Burgess Sent: 16 October 2006 16:34 To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] Re: A chance to help make RADAR accessible Peter, This is exactly why I set up the petition at: http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm The first question that any manufacturer will ask is "how many people does this affect" and nobody seems to have any solid data. There's currently just over 200 signatures on the petition and I doubt that this will be enough to impress any manufacturer, but please pass on my details and the link to anybody who would be interested in signing the petition, or knowing its outcome (that definitely includes your contact with Radar). Best wishes. Tim Burgess Raised Bar Ltd Phone: +44 (0)1827 719822 Don't forget to vote for change at http://www.raisedbar.net/petition.htm -----Original Message----- From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Peter Bosher Sent: 16 October 2006 15:37 To: midimag@xxxxxxxxxxx; ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx Cc: jhalatyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Subject: [ddots-l] A chance to help make RADAR accessible Hi All, I just had a call from a guy who has personal contact with Barry Henderson, president of IZ Technology, who make the RADAR hard disk recorders. These are widely used in pro and semi-pro studios, and although some of the functions can be used once you learn keystrokes on the control unit, it is very menu-driven, and when it comes to editing, bouncing or choosing between alternative takes, it gets difficult or impossible. He's sympathetic to the idea of working on accessibility, and has already started working with a programmer to look at speech-enabling, but he needs evidence that there would be real market interest. To keep this alive, we are trying to collect names of people who support this work because they might be interested in using RADAR now or later. He even thinks this might help put pressure on Digidesign and the like if they see similar work going on. Could anyone who would like to support this or express an interest drop me an Email at <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Please pass this on to anyone or any relevant list, and of course I'll keep you posted. Best, Peter ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=faq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq ** To leave the list, click on the immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subject=unsubscribe] ** If this link doesn't work then send a message to: ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx ** and in the Subject line type ** unsubscribe ** For other list commands such as vacation mode, click on the ** immediately-following link:- ** [mailto:ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx?subjectúq] ** or send a message, to ** ddots-l-request@xxxxxxxxxxxxx with the Subject:- faq