[ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?

  • From: "Bobby Lusk" <blusk@xxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:12:57 -0600

Thanks again.  My Sonar music comes from the Tascam FW 1884 mixing board (if 
that helps,) and Jaws and other programs are run through external speakers.  
I'm still learning all the terminology of this program.  I'm still pretty 
computer illiterate, but I'm learning as I go.  I will probably have to get a 
sighted family member or friend to help with all the input and output stuff, 
but hopefully, your tips will help me fix the problems.  God bless you.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: D!J!X! 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 8:15 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


  Ok, first check that your sound card outputs are plugged in correctly. If you 
insert a midi soft synth or something, do the tracks play from both speakers or 
from the right as well? If they come out of both then your outputs are ok. 
Next, make sure that when you selecct an input for your vocals track that you 
are choosing a stereo source for your card. For example if your mic/preamp is 
plugged in to say inputs 1/2, you can choose either 1, 2, or 1/2 stereo. You 
would want to choose this. Some cards are different regarding this, so you 
might have to turn your vocals track in to a mono track to get the vocals as a 
mono stream and thus having them come out the center. Finally, as we did  with 
the outputs, check that your inputs are set correctly. Wat card are you using? 
And don't worry no such thing as a dumb or too many questions, we are all here 
to help...

  HTH, D!J!X!


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  From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Bobby Lusk
  Sent: Saturday, February 21, 2009 7:02 AM
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


  Thank you for answering my question.  I hope you don't mind if I ask a couple 
more questsions.  I'm very new at this, and I'm just starting to get my head 
into the water so to speak.  When I first got my computer and recording 
equipmnet, the people who helped me get everything set up had everything going 
through the same sound card, but over the phone a few days ago, Bryan Smart 
from Dancing Dots was able to help me get everything in its correct sound card. 
 I'm finally able to record my music, but even though I have the pan on all my 
vocals set to Center, they all come out of the right speaker.  Is there 
anything I can do to fix this?  Also, I noticed that when I was going through 
my play list on my Windows Media Player, for some odd reason, all the vocals I 
had recorded were being saved as WAV files.  I'm not talking about completed 
projects nor even midi tracks;  I'm talking about little clips of my vocals 
being saved and put into my library container in my Windows Media Player.  Is 
that supposed to happen (especially since the Sonar music comes out of a 
different sound card than the Windows Media Player?  Sorry for taking up your 
time, but these are things I've been concerned about.  Thanks for your time.
                      Regards.  Bobby Lusk.
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: D!J!X! 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 11:33 AM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


    It is suggested that you keep all your midi volumes at 127 (max) and just 
control the audio volumes instead. If using an external synth then fix it's 
hardware volume. Of couse there's exceptions to every rule, so it's not a 
definite thing.

    HTH, D!J!X!




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    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Bobby Lusk
    Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:15 AM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


    Hello.
         I have a question.  I set all my audio volumes to 0 DB, but what's a 
good recording level for midi tracks.  With the vocals set to 0, when I play my 
project back, I can hardly hear the vocals without increasing the volume.  
Should I lower the volumes for my midi tracks?
      ----- Original Message ----- 
      From: D!J!X! 
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
      Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:41 PM
      Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


      -0.1 is the max you can go up to. Try compressing some tracks and playing 
around with indevidual track volumes, or try using a limitter to see what it 
does. Take in to consideration that if you want your mix to breathe or have 
some natrual ambiance to it, it will never sound as loud as today's comercial 
rock and hip hop stuff, just because those cds have the crap compressed out of 
them. It all depends what you are working with. Not that compressing is bad, 
but it's an art that must be mastered to be done right. Some of your tracks 
might have some peaks here and there which is what's holding your volume down a 
bit,  with a compressor or better recording techniques you might be able to 
sort this out. I'm sure others will chime in here with better suggestions 
and/or tips on how to fix your problem.

      HTH, D!J!X!




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      From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] 
On Behalf Of Stacy Blackwell
      Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:23 PM
      To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
      Subject: [ddots-l] 0 dB or higher?


      Hello again.  My new question is that I have maxed the outputs of a 
project until it sounded balanced.  I pushed everything to the 0 dB output 
level.  I thought the mix was good, but when compared to a regular CD, the 
overall volume was a lot lower.  To match the volume, I had to max out some 
buses to 6 dB.  I shouldn't have to do this, should I?  I thought 0 dB was 
where the volume should be for a quality recording.  Are my original recording 
levels too low?  I don't think they were that far below 0 dB.  My MP3 
conversion was also quieter in volume.  Any suggestions?  S.B.    

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