[ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?

  • From: "Paper Music" <data@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: <ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 14:56:27 -0700

D!J!X!,
    I keep my MIDI levels at 100, so that there's room for other levels to be 
louder or softer than the dominant voice. I use poly-voicing to smooth out 
unwanted qualities in an otherwise great voice, and to provide a more effective 
attack or decay. So, if I like the sound of a "soft strings", but it attacks 
too slowly, I add a wind instrument (like a flute) at a much lower level. Then, 
if the percussion section needs to be more prominent than the strings, set it a 
little higher. 
    Setting MIDI average-levels to 127 doesn't give you flexibility in the 
upper amplitudes of other voices. 
    -Andy
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: D!J!X! 
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 10:33 AM
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


  It is suggested that you keep all your midi volumes at 127 (max) and just 
control the audio volumes instead. If using an external synth then fix it's 
hardware volume. Of couse there's exceptions to every rule, so it's not a 
definite thing.

  HTH, D!J!X!




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  From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Bobby Lusk
  Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 7:15 AM
  To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


  Hello.
       I have a question.  I set all my audio volumes to 0 DB, but what's a 
good recording level for midi tracks.  With the vocals set to 0, when I play my 
project back, I can hardly hear the vocals without increasing the volume.  
Should I lower the volumes for my midi tracks?
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: D!J!X! 
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx 
    Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 10:41 PM
    Subject: [ddots-l] Re: 0 dB or higher?


    -0.1 is the max you can go up to. Try compressing some tracks and playing 
around with indevidual track volumes, or try using a limitter to see what it 
does. Take in to consideration that if you want your mix to breathe or have 
some natrual ambiance to it, it will never sound as loud as today's comercial 
rock and hip hop stuff, just because those cds have the crap compressed out of 
them. It all depends what you are working with. Not that compressing is bad, 
but it's an art that must be mastered to be done right. Some of your tracks 
might have some peaks here and there which is what's holding your volume down a 
bit,  with a compressor or better recording techniques you might be able to 
sort this out. I'm sure others will chime in here with better suggestions 
and/or tips on how to fix your problem.

    HTH, D!J!X!




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    From: ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:ddots-l-bounce@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On 
Behalf Of Stacy Blackwell
    Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 11:23 PM
    To: ddots-l@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
    Subject: [ddots-l] 0 dB or higher?


    Hello again.  My new question is that I have maxed the outputs of a project 
until it sounded balanced.  I pushed everything to the 0 dB output level.  I 
thought the mix was good, but when compared to a regular CD, the overall volume 
was a lot lower.  To match the volume, I had to max out some buses to 6 dB.  I 
shouldn't have to do this, should I?  I thought 0 dB was where the volume 
should be for a quality recording.  Are my original recording levels too low?  
I don't think they were that far below 0 dB.  My MP3 conversion was also 
quieter in volume.  Any suggestions?  S.B.    

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