In article <4d017e724e.Brian@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>, Brian Howlett <brian.groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > <http://pilling.users.netlink.co.uk/ovationpro/upgrade/op277.zip> may be > a good place to start... I've already got v2.77, but it doesn't seem to make any difference with the crashing. I'm suspecting it might be something to do with either a third-party applet which is auto-loading (which may account for it being more reliable on some people's machines) or even some obscure bug in the lazy task swapping code in RISC OS 5 (which I've mentioned before) but I'm not quite sure how that would only affect OvPro - unless that's doing a lot of code execution within wimp polls or something? -- Paul Vigay __\\|//__ Life, (` o-o ') the Universe http://www.vigay.com -----ooO-(_)-Ooo------ & Everything ------ (list replies: Email address IS genuine, include -nospam) In the last 4,000 years, no new animals have been domesticated.