[dance-tech] Re: Sensordance, etc........The language of technology - the technology of dance

  • From: Marlon Barrios-Solano <unstablelandscape@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: mpgough@xxxxxxxxx, jaimedelval@xxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 6 Oct 2006 08:47:20 -0700 (PDT)

this is Marlon.
I have been following in the last days these discussion. Hard stuff because it 
is soft.
I think that it directly reflects important epistemological  and methodological 
splits that we host.  It almost feels like another recretaion of the Sokal 
affair in our list.
I feel that what it is very important is that we can keep realizing the 
dificulty for communication and  (hopefully) our commitment to improve our  
"meta" cognitive skills to be able to continually review our epistemologies and 
keep the dilaogue whithout alienating. 
I tend to think like Matt. Because of my background in psycology and cognitive 
science, I am passionate about the need for  more scientifically  and 
methodologically grounded theories about "what is going on" when we do what we 
do, but at the same time  I know that as a practitioner  ( and an human) I get 
trapped in my "own blind spots" when I think that, for example: improvisation 
"is" a generative system.
 I appretiate the  courage and honesty of both, because this discussion (the 
hardest)  has been needded for long time and is becomming more and more 
relevant due to a very important phylosophical methodological  shifts that main 
stream research  and science is already having.
We are getting more and more able to study  complex phenomena such as dance, 
human motion/cognition with dynamic systems models and real-time technologies 
(Esther Thelen/Indiana University and Scott kelso In Florida). Our very 
practices are becoming the subject of scientific research.
Now, as interdisciplinary researcher/practicioners we have a lot to contribute. 
The objective  would not be to try to make science all the time look right or 
wrong, it would be in how we can we can clear our discurses without over 
simplications  and to be able to keep developing knowledge that takes into 
consideration the many facets of our "world views".
I think that we need an ethnographer/s. A real anthopologist to study, clasify 
and relate our "stories". This list would be one of his/her documents to 
analize and stablish connections between scientific discourses, practices and 
tools, institutions (trade of metaphors, etc). He or she would have to make 
alot of interviews and connect a lot of field data. 
I think that a counterpoint between an ethnographic perspective with  a 
scientific  research with awareness on the importance of  "discourses", the  
political problems  of science, art and academic institutions, and a deep 
knowledge of the  practices would help us to develop knowledge. (an example for 
me is the book of the anthopologist Stephan Helmreich Silicon Second Nature 
on Artificial Life and of course the Santa Fe Institute community of scientists 
and so  and interesting reserach in cogitive anthopology).
I believe that our dance practices are going to be  researched and are 
getting"hotter" for  the undertanding of fundamentental aspects of navegation, 
devleopmental movement, porture,  and motion ( of course when ther are 
marketing interests to fund the research like in robotics). The hypothesis that 
this scientists try to test might be completly different to the rational of the 
artist/practitioner thinks that is going on. That is the beauty of  human 
It is still very hard to make a jump now to think that we can explain 
"choreography" or architectures" but we have meaninful pieces in a puzzle which 
is exiting and facinating. Methodologies are been developed (data mappins,  
simmulations, content analisis are some of them)
This is my contibution in a way that I humbly recognize that we don't know 
alot, but we know much more  than 40 year ago about  how we create (designed 
and mediated) experiential realities with skillfull manipulations (that we can 
purchase)  from pills to blogs, webcam sex  to telematics perfomances, with 
Paris Hilton and Trisha Brown, with Lacan and Sokal, a "list"  or a performance 
in Tokio, ideas of wholes and fragments, skin colors and accents, 
"where are you from?"
Thank you Matt, Jaime and the anonimous Transomething.

Marlon Barrios Solano
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