[cryptome] Re: question

  • From: Peter Presland <peter@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Fri, 03 Jan 2014 20:10:48 +0000

Seems to me that the answer depends on what EXACTLY you are trying to
protect against.

Personally, I have concluded that the legal jurisdiction of a server's
domicile has relevance only in so far as the 'legality' of its content
are concerned. That and the possibility of seizure/disabling of it's
domain name. When unable to agree, I have become accustomed to closing
complainant exchanges with "see you in court then - an IRISH court".
Unlikely to put off the uber-wealthy anywhere of course - or any
government with a good case, but seems to work well enough otherwise.

As for protecting against unauthorised server access, monitoring etc:
Since I now know that the main ISP's in the UK, together with ALL the
commercial OS and application vendors, co-operate fully with the
NSA/GCHQ's of this world; and at a level that renders amateur
countermeasures no more than ineffective irritants to them; and bearing
in mind the nature of my web site; I now work on the assumption that
EVERYTHING I do on the internet is an open-book to them. Also, whilst I
have no illusions about the effectiveness of the site in its stated
purposes, I also assume that I and the site ARE being monitored and
experimented on, if only as part and parcel of ongoing cyber-spook
rookie training and practice.

George Orwell was quite prescient with his 1984 novel, but even he would
be amazed at the extent of the surveillance capabilities of our 21st
century Big Brothers.


On 03/01/2014 17:43, In Harms Way wrote:
> Thanks John, but being aware of most of the pitfalls and traps my
> question was also into the direction, which countries, hosts should
> boom, because they offer better privacy. A kind of reward by website
> owners to migrate their accounts there. In the face of corrupted
> governments and even more corrupted private suckers it is like with the
> one-eyed in the land of the blind.
> Secret circle wanted to elaborate, if routing to a relatively honest
> hoster in Switzerland (see also:
> http://techloy.com/promoted/switzerland-secure-hosting/) could avert USA
> snooping (surely it can't if the undersea cables are interfered with).
> Privacy International
> <https://www.privacyinternational.org/reports/surveillance-monitor-2011-assessment-of-surveillance-across-europe>
> ranked Greece pretty high, but I guess that is outdated and by depending
> financially on the handouts of the German US-lapdog slavespies I
> wouldn't feel that they deserve the honour to host a decent site either,
> though the German NGOs are good watchdogs (but I never have seen them
> biting). IMMI <https://immi.is/> in Iceland certainly do an even better
> job and their host is worth considering.
> So let me please hear your best advise for the one-eyed.
> John Young wrote, On 03/01/2014 19:36:
>> At 11:01 AM 1/3/2014, you wrote:
>> Friends,
>> Given the fact that Levison states:
>>> This experience has taught me one very important lesson: without
>>> congressional action or a strong judicial precedent, I would
>>> _strongly_ recommend against anyone trusting their private data to a
>>> company with physical ties to the United States.
>>> Sincerely,
>>> Ladar Levison
>>> Owner and Operator, Lavabit LLC
>>> which normal website hoster friends here could recommend in which
>>> countries?
>> Iceland may be the only one, and that may be short-lived before
>> it is expropriated by open and/or secret undermining.
>> Or it is likely a honey pot like so many other dropboxes,
>> pastes, leak sites, privacy and FOI initiatives. Big business now
>> offering ways to avoid boogie-spies, aka "cybersecurity," by
>> govs, coms, edus, orgs, sec experts.
>> All other countries are more intrusive than the US, and all
>> are becoming even more intrusive thanks to the booming
>> industry of intrusive hardware, software, programs, staffing,
>> contracting, higher education, co-optation of comsec experts,
>> freedom of information organizations, religious institutions
>> and many others who are benefiting from data mining of
>> their supporters by selling information either directly or
>> through second and third parties, in many cases, those
>> sales are occurring by system administrators, temporary
>> employees and volunteers, informants, ex-employees
>> and volunteers,
>> Web sites, and mail lists, like this one, news outlets,
>> leak sites, conference organizers, educational institutions
>> and innumerable others are gathering and selling data as
>> fast as possible before legal restrictions are enacted.
>> These private spying entrepreneurs are fearful that the
>> crackdown on official spies will spill over into their opportunism,
>> their windfall, their golden goose of data exploitation.
>> Ubiquitous log files, ostensibly required for system
>> administration, are the gold mines which implicate every
>> sneak-thief operator of public, private, governmental, NGO,
>> commercial venues.
>>> The USA, UK and Sweden are out and so are all EU countries.
>>> Please let me have some good recommendations with hoster and country you
>>> would choose if you had to transfer a website and its database and
>>> mailing list capabilities.
>>> Thanks
>>> IHW

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