[cryptome] Re: [cryptome] Re: [cryptome] Re: [cryptome] Re: [cryptome] Re: [cryptome] Israel to get 14 F-35 Stealth Fighters from USA: Cost £2.2billion

  • From: Redmond <darkredptc@xxxxxxxxx>
  • To: cryptome@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
  • Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2015 12:18:01 -0700

They usually hop them over using drop tanks to minimize landings. Crating
them would be very costly and difficult on both ends.
On Feb 24, 2015 11:32 AM, "Andrew Hornback" <achornback@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Dougie,
> I would think that ITAR would apply for any export of weaponry (or
> anything else on the USML) to another country or foreign national.  So,
> there would be a paper trail, but that would need to be followed.
> Also, I'm not sure how one would get, say, 16 F-16s to the Middle East.
> The logistics for air to air re-fueling and risks involved in that kind of
> operation can get expensive for a straight transit from CONUS.  Tear 'em
> down and crate 'em up for a freighter?  I imagine that would work in some
> instances, especially with a vehicle like an Apache which has a much
> shorter range.
> The other option would be to "hop and skip" across... say US to Greenland
> to UK to Turkey or something along those lines.  I really hadn't though
> about it.  But, since the aid packages generally include training for
> flight crews, etc... it would make sense to fly the trainees over, train
> them here and let them fly their new toys back.
> Still, JP5 doesn't come from nowhere and anytime those birds have to land,
> there's going to be at least one tower (military or not) with knowledge of
> that operation.
> For smaller items like Stingers, AR-15s, etc - those could go any number
> of ways for their "fantastic voyage"...
> --- A
> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 8:07 AM, doug <douglasrankine2001@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>> Hi Andrew,
>> You mean there are limits on US foreign policy and practice?  :-) .
>>  Don't they have the facilities to do it anyway...but just do i in
>> secret?  The US money supply to Egypt may have been turned off temporarily,
>> but how do we know that the replenishment of their war materials have as
>> well?
>> ATB
>> Dougie.
>> On 22/02/15 20:14, Andrew Hornback wrote:
>> Those units would have been left in storage until either a) Egypt paid
>> for them themselves - and only as long as there were no export restrictions
>> on sending that kind of materiel at the time or b) the funding for the
>> program was re-instated and delivery was made.
>>  --- A

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